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<rss version="2.0" xmlns:itunes="http://www.itunes.com/dtds/podcast-1.0.dtd" xmlns:content="http://purl.org/rss/1.0/modules/content/"><channel><title>Blue Collar Smart</title><description><![CDATA[<p><strong>Blue Collar Smart</strong> is the podcast for trade industry leaders who are ready to stop competing on price and start building organizations that win through people, leadership, and strategic alignment.  The trades have never lacked hard work. What they need is stronger leadership. As workforce challenges grow and competition increases, the businesses that rise above the rest will be the ones that invest in their people, develop leaders, and build organizations that outlast the founder.</p><p><br></p><p>Hosted by <strong>Hugh Hornsby</strong>, a trade industry executive with more than 40 years of leadership experience, Blue Collar Smart brings real conversations shaped by decades of growing organizations, developing talent, and leading from the field to the boardroom.</p><p><br></p><p>Each episode features business owners, executives, industry experts, and innovators discussing people development, leadership clarity, organizational alignment, succession planning, private equity, and the future of the trades. Every conversation is grounded in real-world execution, not theory.  <strong>Our mission is simple:</strong> To transform how trade industry leaders think, lead, and grow by proving that people are the only sustainable competitive advantage.</p><p><br></p><p>Subscribe to <strong>Blue Collar Smart</strong> and discover practical leadership conversations that help you build stronger teams, stronger organizations, and a stronger future for the trades.</p>]]></description><itunes:image href="https://feeds.podetize.com/hvXT5Ym8i.png"></itunes:image><language>en-us</language><itunes:category text="Business"><itunes:category text="Management"></itunes:category></itunes:category><itunes:category text="Business"><itunes:category text="Careers"></itunes:category></itunes:category><itunes:explicit>false</itunes:explicit><itunes:author>Hugh Hornsby</itunes:author><link></link><itunes:owner><itunes:name>Hugh Hornsby</itunes:name><itunes:email>hugh@hornsbybc.com</itunes:email></itunes:owner><itunes:type>episodic</itunes:type><copyright>Copyright 2026 | All Rights Reserved | Hugh Hornsby</copyright><item><title>Who Are You When the Career Ends with Dr. Greg Bourgond</title><enclosure url="https://feeds.podetize.com/ep/0W1vZ2LxO/media/zVnEZ3pRWP.mp3" length="41841896" type="audio/mpeg"></enclosure><guid isPermaLink="false">0W1vZ2LxO</guid><pubDate>Thu, 08 Oct 2026 12:00:00 GMT</pubDate><itunes:duration>2615</itunes:duration><link></link><itunes:explicit>false</itunes:explicit><description><![CDATA[<p><span style="color: rgb(63, 42, 50);">Host Hugh Hornsby welcomes </span>Dr. Greg Bourgond<span style="color: rgb(63, 42, 50);"> to discuss faith, purpose, and life transitions. </span>Bourgond<span style="color: rgb(63, 42, 50);"> recounts his parents’ divorce at 12 and a defining “hugging the lion” moment that fueled lifelong focus, his 29-year Navy career retiring as a naval intelligence officer, and varied leadership roles in business, churches, and graduate education. He describes coming to Christ on August 11, 1973 after losing four babies and later founding Heart of a Warrior Ministries, now 30 years old. </span>Bourgond<span style="color: rgb(63, 42, 50);"> outlines his book, The Winter of Your Life (“If you’re not dead, you’re not done”), explains four seasons of life, warns against identity in work, and shares practical steps for pursuing God’s counsel, planning, and meaningful legacy.</span></p><p><br></p><p><span style="color: rgb(63, 42, 50);">00:00 Welcome to Blue Collar Smart</span></p><p><span style="color: rgb(63, 42, 50);">01:25 Meet Dr Greg </span>Bourgond</p><p><span style="color: rgb(63, 42, 50);">02:38 A Life of Many Callings</span></p><p><span style="color: rgb(63, 42, 50);">05:40 Finding the Right Ratio</span></p><p><span style="color: rgb(63, 42, 50);">07:17 The Lion Vow at 12</span></p><p><span style="color: rgb(63, 42, 50);">09:29 You Were Made on Purpose</span></p><p><span style="color: rgb(63, 42, 50);">11:15 Coming to Christ</span></p><p><span style="color: rgb(63, 42, 50);">15:17 Heart of a Warrior Begins</span></p><p><span style="color: rgb(63, 42, 50);">19:22 Winter of Life and Identity</span></p><p><span style="color: rgb(63, 42, 50);">22:10 The Four Seasons Framework</span></p><p><span style="color: rgb(63, 42, 50);">24:36 Inside the Book</span></p><p><span style="color: rgb(63, 42, 50);">27:57 Cancer Wake Up Call</span></p><p><span style="color: rgb(63, 42, 50);">29:05 Faithful Available Teachable</span></p><p><span style="color: rgb(63, 42, 50);">32:18 Where to Get the Book</span></p><p><span style="color: rgb(63, 42, 50);">33:55 Character Over Competence</span></p><p><span style="color: rgb(63, 42, 50);">35:24 Yellow Pad Advice</span></p><p><span style="color: rgb(63, 42, 50);">37:43 Nine Steps to Finish Strong</span></p><p><br></p><p>Thanks for listening, and please share this episode with a trade leader who is ready to build something bigger than a business. Every share helps us reach more owners, executives, and industry leaders who are committed to investing in their people and strengthening the future of the trades.</p><p><br></p><p>Have a great day.</p><p><br></p><p><strong>Hugh Hornsby</strong></p><p><br></p><p><em>"People build businesses. Invest in your people, and they'll invest in your future."</em></p><h2><br></h2><h2>CONNECT with Hugh Hornsby &amp; Blue Collar Smart</h2><p><br></p><p>Get practical leadership insights, proven people-first strategies, and resources designed to help trade leaders build stronger teams, grow profitable businesses, and create organizations that stand the test of time. Join a community of owners, executives, and industry leaders who believe the future of the trades is built on people, relationships, and leadership.</p><p><br></p><p><strong>Join the Community:</strong></p><p><a href="http://www.thebluecollarsmart.com/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank" style="color: rgb(17, 85, 204);">www.thebluecollarsmart.com</a> and <a href="http://www.hughhornsby.com/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank" style="color: rgb(17, 85, 204);">www.hughhornsby.com</a></p><p><br></p><p><br></p><p><strong>Follow Hugh Hornsby:</strong></p><p>LinkedIn: <a href="https://www.linkedin.com/in/hugh-hornsby-51986b10/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">https://www.linkedin.com/in/hugh-hornsby-51986b10/</a></p><p><br></p><p>Interested in executive advisory, leadership coaching, speaking, or mastermind opportunities? Connect with Hugh and discover how a people-first approach can help your organization grow with purpose, clarity, and lasting impact.</p><p><br></p><p>Show Sponsors</p><p><strong>iWallet</strong> <a href="https://www.iwallet.com/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">https://www.iwallet.com/</a></p><p><strong>Distro</strong> <a href="http://distro.app/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank" style="color: rgb(17, 85, 204);">distro.app</a></p><p><br></p><p>About D<span style="background-color: rgb(232, 243, 254); color: rgb(12, 39, 74);">r. Greg Bourgond</span></p><p>Dr. Greg Bourgond is the founder and president of Heart of a Warrior Ministries, where he has spent more than three decades helping men develop lives of integrity, purpose, faith, and leadership. His background spans 29 years of active and reserve service in the U.S. Navy, including service as a Naval Intelligence Officer, along with leadership roles in the defense industry, business, churches, seminaries, and higher education.</p><p><br></p><p>Learn more about Dr. Greg Bourgond and Heart of a Warrior Ministries:</p><p><a href="https://www.heartofawarrior.org/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">https://www.heartofawarrior.org/</a></p><br><p>Visit iWallet at <a href="https://www.iwallet.com/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank" style="background-color: rgb(255, 255, 255);">https://www.iwallet.com/</a></p><p>Visit iWallet at <a href="https://www.iwallet.com/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank" style="background-color: rgb(255, 255, 255);">https://www.iwallet.com/</a></p>]]></description><itunes:image href="https://feeds.podetize.com/pTOI0NT8J.png"></itunes:image><itunes:season>1</itunes:season><itunes:episode>13</itunes:episode></item><item><title>Leading the Future of the Trades with Daniel Quinonez</title><enclosure url="https://feeds.podetize.com/ep/Cwhvaswi0/media/6VH2oRPNDd.mp3" length="44339044" type="audio/mpeg"></enclosure><guid isPermaLink="false">Cwhvaswi0</guid><pubDate>Thu, 01 Oct 2026 12:00:00 GMT</pubDate><itunes:duration>2771</itunes:duration><link>https://thebluecollarsmart.com/episode/leading-the-future-of-the-trades-with-daniel-quinonez</link><itunes:explicit>false</itunes:explicit><description><![CDATA[<p><span style="color: rgb(63, 42, 50);">Host Hugh Hornsby interviews Daniel </span>Quinonez<span style="color: rgb(63, 42, 50);">, newly named CEO of the Plumbing-Heating-Cooling Contractors Association (PHCC), about his blue-collar upbringing in Newark, New Jersey, and his career path through construction associations, the National Association of Home Builders, and PHCC’s Educational Foundation. Quinones describes PHCC’s 140-year history and emphasizes apprenticeship training, scholarships, and PHCC’s Online Academy, plus continued business and leadership education for contractors. He discusses membership challenges from an aging contractor base and private equity consolidation, and the need to re-energize younger, tech-savvy members. Quinones frames “building the middle of the road” as offering debt-free, earn-while-you-learn alternatives to college debt, urges strong licensure standards against untrained contractors and fraudulent schools, views AI as a helpful business resource, and shares his “yellow pad” advice: never quit.</span></p><p><br></p><p><span style="color: rgb(63, 42, 50);">00:00 Blue Collar Roots</span></p><p><span style="color: rgb(63, 42, 50);">03:36 Path to PHCC Leadership</span></p><p><span style="color: rgb(63, 42, 50);">06:33 PHCC History and Change</span></p><p><span style="color: rgb(63, 42, 50);">08:49 Trades vs College Debt</span></p><p><span style="color: rgb(63, 42, 50);">12:22 Building the Middle Road</span></p><p><span style="color: rgb(63, 42, 50);">17:43 Business Skills for Growth</span></p><p><span style="color: rgb(63, 42, 50);">19:36 Succession and Private Equity</span></p><p><span style="color: rgb(63, 42, 50);">22:40 AI as a Tool</span></p><p><span style="color: rgb(63, 42, 50);">26:18 Licensing and Training Standards</span></p><p><span style="color: rgb(63, 42, 50);">30:00 Avoiding Fly By Night Schools</span></p><p><span style="color: rgb(63, 42, 50);">34:52 How to Start with PHCC</span></p><p><span style="color: rgb(63, 42, 50);">39:56 Yellow Pad Advice</span></p><p><span style="color: rgb(63, 42, 50);">42:33 Future of the Trades</span></p><p><br></p><p>Thanks for listening, and please share this episode with a trade leader who is ready to build something bigger than a business. Every share helps us reach more owners, executives, and industry leaders who are committed to investing in their people and strengthening the future of the trades.</p><p><br></p><p>Have a great day.</p><p><br></p><p><strong>Hugh Hornsby</strong></p><p><br></p><p><em>"People build businesses. Invest in your people, and they'll invest in your future."</em></p><h2><br></h2><h2>CONNECT with Hugh Hornsby &amp; Blue Collar Smart</h2><p><br></p><p>Get practical leadership insights, proven people-first strategies, and resources designed to help trade leaders build stronger teams, grow profitable businesses, and create organizations that stand the test of time. Join a community of owners, executives, and industry leaders who believe the future of the trades is built on people, relationships, and leadership.</p><p><br></p><p><strong>Join the Community:</strong></p><p><a href="http://www.thebluecollarsmart.com/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank" style="color: rgb(17, 85, 204);">www.thebluecollarsmart.com</a> and <a href="http://www.hughhornsby.com/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank" style="color: rgb(17, 85, 204);">www.hughhornsby.com</a></p><p><br></p><p><br></p><p><strong>Follow Hugh Hornsby:</strong></p><p>LinkedIn: <a href="https://www.linkedin.com/in/hugh-hornsby-51986b10/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">https://www.linkedin.com/in/hugh-hornsby-51986b10/</a></p><p><br></p><p>Interested in executive advisory, leadership coaching, speaking, or mastermind opportunities? Connect with Hugh and discover how a people-first approach can help your organization grow with purpose, clarity, and lasting impact.</p><p><br></p><p>About Daniel</p><p>Daniel Quinonez is the incoming CEO of the Plumbing-Heating-Cooling Contractors—National Association (PHCC), bringing more than 20 years of experience in association leadership, advocacy, and workforce development. Raised in a blue-collar New Jersey community, Quinonez credits working in his father’s Newark tavern from a young age with instilling the work ethic that has shaped his career. Before joining PHCC, he held leadership roles with organizations including the Roof Coatings Manufacturers Association and Professional Electrical Apparatus Reconditioning League, worked with the National Association of Home Builders, and served 12 years in the U.S. Army Reserve. Since joining the PHCC Educational Foundation in 2023, Quinonez has helped expand apprenticeship education, scholarships, industry partnerships, and the PHCC Academy, while also serving as PHCC’s Chief Operating Officer. He was selected in May 2026 to succeed Cindy Sheridan as CEO, assuming the position November 1, 2026.</p><p><br></p><p>Links</p><p>PHCC Educational Foundation <a href="https://www.phccfoundation.org/?utm_source=chatgpt.com" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">https://www.phccfoundation.org/?utm_source=chatgpt.com</a></p><p>LinkedIn: <a href="https://www.linkedin.com/in/daniel-quinonez-690ba68/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">https://www.linkedin.com/in/daniel-quinonez-690ba68/</a></p><p><br></p><p>Show Sponsors</p><p><strong>iWallet</strong> <a href="https://www.iwallet.com/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">https://www.iwallet.com/</a></p><p><strong>Distro</strong> <a href="http://distro.app/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank" style="color: rgb(17, 85, 204);">distro.app</a></p><br><p>Visit iWallet at <a href="https://www.iwallet.com/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank" style="background-color: rgb(255, 255, 255);">https://www.iwallet.com/</a></p><p>Visit iWallet at <a href="https://www.iwallet.com/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">https://www.iwallet.com/</a></p>]]></description><itunes:image href="https://feeds.podetize.com/cHwDLOLI9.png"></itunes:image><itunes:season>1</itunes:season><itunes:episode>12</itunes:episode></item><item><title>Building Trades Businesses That Run Without You with Dr. Sam McGough</title><enclosure url="https://feeds.podetize.com/ep/dbAG8B8AA/media/T8zriXMwge7.mp3" length="45889632" type="audio/mpeg"></enclosure><guid isPermaLink="false">dbAG8B8AA</guid><pubDate>Thu, 24 Sep 2026 12:00:00 GMT</pubDate><itunes:duration>2868</itunes:duration><link>https://thebluecollarsmart.com/episode/building-trades-businesses-that-run-without-you-with-dr-sam-mcgough</link><itunes:explicit>false</itunes:explicit><description><![CDATA[<p><span style="color: rgb(63, 42, 50);">Host Hugh Hornsby interviews Dr. Sam McGough, a former chiropractor who built a multi-provider medical clinic enterprise, stopped treating patients about a decade ago, and focused on systems, SOPs, and masterminds to create a business that can run without him. McGough explains his motivation came from his truck-driver father’s death, when a lack of systems forced his mother to sell the business assets cheaply, shaping his goal of building transferable companies. He shares how his Aestus mastermind emphasized transparent peer learning without vendor selling, and argues trades businesses often struggle to sell because owners remain the rainmaker and lack cash flow and documentation. McGough describes entering HVAC via a successful plumber patient, launching an HVAC business in January, adding electrical, pursuing plumbing, and prioritizing customer service, relationships, and building a home-services platform targeting $20–$50M revenue with strong margins and optionality.</span></p><p><br></p><p><span style="color: rgb(63, 42, 50);">00:00 Welcome to Blue Collar Smart</span></p><p><span style="color: rgb(63, 42, 50);">01:07 Sam’s Clinic Journey</span></p><p><span style="color: rgb(63, 42, 50);">05:18 Building Aestus Mastermind</span></p><p><span style="color: rgb(63, 42, 50);">15:18 Systems and Hiring Fast</span></p><p><span style="color: rgb(63, 42, 50);">18:25 Aging Owners and Selling</span></p><p><span style="color: rgb(63, 42, 50);">24:50 Acquisition Rollup Strategy</span></p><p><span style="color: rgb(63, 42, 50);">29:41 Hunt for Success Podcast</span></p><p><span style="color: rgb(63, 42, 50);">31:37 Money Skills for Trades</span></p><p><span style="color: rgb(63, 42, 50);">36:55 Real Mastermind Culture</span></p><p><span style="color: rgb(63, 42, 50);">39:09 Yellow Pad Takeaway</span></p><p><span style="color: rgb(63, 42, 50);">42:47 Freedom Through Systems</span></p><p><span style="color: rgb(63, 42, 50);">44:45 How to Contact Sam</span></p><p><br></p><p>Thanks for listening, and please share this episode with a trade leader who is ready to build something bigger than a business. Every share helps us reach more owners, executives, and industry leaders who are committed to investing in their people and strengthening the future of the trades.</p><p><br></p><p>Have a great day.</p><p><br></p><p><strong>Hugh Hornsby</strong></p><p><br></p><p><em>"People build businesses. Invest in your people, and they'll invest in your future."</em></p><h2><br></h2><h2>CONNECT with Hugh Hornsby &amp; Blue Collar Smart</h2><p><br></p><p>Get practical leadership insights, proven people-first strategies, and resources designed to help trade leaders build stronger teams, grow profitable businesses, and create organizations that stand the test of time. Join a community of owners, executives, and industry leaders who believe the future of the trades is built on people, relationships, and leadership.</p><p><br></p><p><strong>Join the Community:</strong></p><p><a href="http://www.thebluecollarsmart.com/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank" style="color: rgb(17, 85, 204);">www.thebluecollarsmart.com</a> and <a href="http://www.hughhornsby.com/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank" style="color: rgb(17, 85, 204);">www.hughhornsby.com</a></p><p><br></p><p><br></p><p><strong>Follow Hugh Hornsby:</strong></p><p>LinkedIn: <a href="https://www.linkedin.com/in/hugh-hornsby-51986b10/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">https://www.linkedin.com/in/hugh-hornsby-51986b10/</a></p><p><br></p><p>Interested in executive advisory, leadership coaching, speaking, or mastermind opportunities? Connect with Hugh and discover how a people-first approach can help your organization grow with purpose, clarity, and lasting impact.</p><p><br></p><p>About Sam</p><p>Dr. Sam McGough is an entrepreneur, healthcare executive, systems-builder, and host of <em>The Hunt for Success</em>. As Founder and CEO of Discovery Medical Center, a leader in national clinic platforms, and creator of Aestus Mastermind, Sam helps entrepreneurs and executives build successful businesses that create greater freedom, purpose, and adventure. An avid outdoorsman, he applies lessons from hunting, fishing, and the backcountry to leadership, discipline, resilience, and decision-making. Through candid conversations with successful founders, investors, and executives, Sam explores the strategies, failures, and habits behind building wealth without sacrificing the life you want to live.</p><p><br></p><p>Links</p><p>Website <a href="https://thehuntforsuccess.com/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">https://thehuntforsuccess.com/</a></p><p>Instagram <a href="https://www.instagram.com/huntforsuccesspodcast" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">https://www.instagram.com/huntforsuccesspodcast</a></p><p>Facebook <a href="https://www.facebook.com/huntforsuccesspodcast/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">https://www.facebook.com/huntforsuccesspodcast/</a></p><p>LinkedIn <a href="https://www.linkedin.com/in/sam-mcgough-674675135/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">https://www.linkedin.com/in/sam-mcgough-674675135/</a></p><p>YouTube <a href="https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCUJBYLwqq-xy-CBEslkvmzw" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCUJBYLwqq-xy-CBEslkvmzw</a></p><p>TikTok <a href="https://www.tiktok.com/@huntforsuccesspodcast" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">https://www.tiktok.com/@huntforsuccesspodcast</a></p><p><br></p><p>Thank you to our sponsors </p><p><strong>iWallet</strong> <a href="https://www.iwallet.com/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">https://www.iwallet.com/</a></p><p><strong>Distro</strong> <a href="http://distro.app/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank" style="color: rgb(17, 85, 204);">distro.app</a></p><br><p>Learn more about Distro at <a href="https://www.google.com/url?q=http://distro.app/&amp;sa=D&amp;source=calendar&amp;ust=1791667018224406&amp;usg=AOvVaw0fHmGwAp340sc6GbhWLC1a" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank" style="color: rgb(11, 87, 208); background-color: rgb(255, 255, 255);">distro.app</a></p><p>Learn more about Distro at <a href="https://www.google.com/url?q=http://distro.app/&amp;sa=D&amp;source=calendar&amp;ust=1791667018224406&amp;usg=AOvVaw0fHmGwAp340sc6GbhWLC1a" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank" style="color: rgb(11, 87, 208); background-color: rgb(255, 255, 255);">distro.app</a></p>]]></description><itunes:image href="https://feeds.podetize.com/mIth48zyf.png"></itunes:image><itunes:season>1</itunes:season><itunes:episode>11</itunes:episode></item><item><title>Gary S. Michel on Clarity, Purpose, and Asking Better Questions</title><enclosure url="https://feeds.podetize.com/ep/AQ7gS7WHC/media/_Ib59vA6PY.mp3" length="32169680" type="audio/mpeg"></enclosure><guid isPermaLink="false">AQ7gS7WHC</guid><pubDate>Thu, 17 Sep 2026 12:00:00 GMT</pubDate><itunes:duration>2011</itunes:duration><link>https://thebluecollarsmart.com/episode/gary-s-michel-on-clarity-purpose-and-asking-better-questions</link><itunes:explicit>false</itunes:explicit><description><![CDATA[<p><span style="color: rgb(63, 42, 50);">Hugh Hornsby introduces his new podcast, Blue Collar Smart, explaining it reflects how people think rather than how they dress and sharing how childhood epilepsy and a learning disability shaped his perspective. He interviews Gary S. Michel, a Virginia Tech engineer and author of Decomplify and The Founder’s Mindset, who has led companies including JELD-WEN, Honeywell, Club Car, Trane, and Ingersoll Rand. They discuss Bud Foster’s “Lunch Pail Defense” and the idea that purpose and clarity outperform raw talent. Michel explains how leaders “complify” work with extra reports and meetings, why focusing on the critical few customer problems wins, and how asking frontline employees questions can prevent unnecessary capital spending. They cover building great companies people want to buy from, work for, and invest in, talent-destination cultures, mentorship, and Michel’s “yellow pad” lesson: be fully present and focus on what matters most.</span></p><p><br></p><p><span style="color: rgb(63, 42, 50);">00:00 Launch Story</span></p><p><span style="color: rgb(63, 42, 50);">01:17 Meet Gary Michel</span></p><p><span style="color: rgb(63, 42, 50);">02:39 Lunch Pail Leadership</span></p><p><span style="color: rgb(63, 42, 50);">04:27 From Engineer to Leader</span></p><p><span style="color: rgb(63, 42, 50);">06:36 Decomplify and Clarity</span></p><p><span style="color: rgb(63, 42, 50);">08:46 Focus on the Critical Few</span></p><p><span style="color: rgb(63, 42, 50);">12:30 Ask the People Doing Work</span></p><p><span style="color: rgb(63, 42, 50);">15:07 What Makes a Great Company</span></p><p><span style="color: rgb(63, 42, 50);">20:50 Culture and Talent Magnet</span></p><p><span style="color: rgb(63, 42, 50);">23:07 Ask Better Questions</span></p><p><span style="color: rgb(63, 42, 50);">25:48 Yellow Pad Moment</span></p><p><span style="color: rgb(63, 42, 50);">29:06 Mentors and Advisors</span></p><p><br></p><p>Thanks for listening, and please share this episode with a trade leader who is ready to build something bigger than a business. Every share helps us reach more owners, executives, and industry leaders who are committed to investing in their people and strengthening the future of the trades.</p><p><br></p><p>Have a great day.</p><p><br></p><p><strong>Hugh Hornsby</strong></p><p><br></p><p><em>"People build businesses. Invest in your people, and they'll invest in your future."</em></p><h2><br></h2><h2>CONNECT with Hugh Hornsby &amp; Blue Collar Smart</h2><p><br></p><p>Get practical leadership insights, proven people-first strategies, and resources designed to help trade leaders build stronger teams, grow profitable businesses, and create organizations that stand the test of time. Join a community of owners, executives, and industry leaders who believe the future of the trades is built on people, relationships, and leadership.</p><p><br></p><p><strong>Join the Community:</strong></p><p><a href="http://www.thebluecollarsmart.com/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank" style="color: rgb(17, 85, 204);">www.thebluecollarsmart.com</a> and <a href="http://www.hughhornsby.com/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank" style="color: rgb(17, 85, 204);">www.hughhornsby.com</a></p><p><br></p><p><br></p><p><strong>Follow Hugh Hornsby:</strong></p><p>LinkedIn: <a href="https://www.linkedin.com/in/hugh-hornsby-51986b10/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">https://www.linkedin.com/in/hugh-hornsby-51986b10/</a></p><p><br></p><p>Interested in executive advisory, leadership coaching, speaking, or mastermind opportunities? Connect with Hugh and discover how a people-first approach can help your organization grow with purpose, clarity, and lasting impact.</p><p><br></p><p>Guest Bio</p><p><span style="background-color: transparent; color: rgb(0, 0, 0);">Gary S. Michel is a transformation expert and seasoned executive who believes that the most powerful tool a leader possesses isn’t a spreadsheet—it’s a mindset. With nearly forty years of experience leading iconic brands like JELD-WEN, Honeywell, Club Car, Trane, and Ingersoll Rand, Gary has spent his career at the inter- section of high-stakes strategy and human-centric leadership. While his tenure as a board chair and CEO earned him acco- lades like “Most Admired CEO” by the Charlotte Business Journal, Gary is most often sought after for his role as a mentor and advi- sor. He has cultivated a loyal following of leaders and team mem- bers who rely on his unique ability to strip away corporate noise and restore a founder’s sense of ownership and purpose to estab- lished organizations. Whether he is delivering a keynote to hundreds, serving on boards, or advising a single executive, Gary’s guidance is rooted in the belief that clarity is a gift you give your team. A Vistage resource speaker and Forbes featured author, he is a dedicated advocate for the next generation of leaders through his board work with the American Heart Association and his deep roots in the Charlotte, North Carolina, community. </span></p><p><br></p><p>Links</p><p>Website: <a href="http://www.garysmichel.com/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank" style="background-color: transparent; color: rgb(17, 85, 204);">www.garysmichel.com</a></p><p>LinkedIn: <a href="https://www.linkedin.com/in/garymichel1/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank" style="background-color: transparent; color: rgb(17, 85, 204);">https://www.linkedin.com/in/garymichel1/</a></p><p><br></p><p>Thank you to our sponsors </p><p><strong>iWallet</strong> <a href="https://www.iwallet.com/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">https://www.iwallet.com/</a></p><p><strong>Distro</strong> <a href="http://distro.app/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank" style="color: rgb(17, 85, 204);">distro.app</a></p><br><p>Learn more about Distro at <a href="https://www.google.com/url?q=http://distro.app/&amp;sa=D&amp;source=calendar&amp;ust=1791667018224406&amp;usg=AOvVaw0fHmGwAp340sc6GbhWLC1a" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank" style="color: rgb(11, 87, 208); background-color: rgb(255, 255, 255);">distro.app</a></p><p>Learn more about Distro at <a href="https://www.google.com/url?q=http://distro.app/&amp;sa=D&amp;source=calendar&amp;ust=1791667018224406&amp;usg=AOvVaw0fHmGwAp340sc6GbhWLC1a" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank" style="background-color: rgb(255, 255, 255); color: rgb(11, 87, 208);">distro.app</a></p>]]></description><itunes:image href="https://feeds.podetize.com/n-puO19pz.png"></itunes:image><itunes:season>1</itunes:season><itunes:episode>10</itunes:episode></item><item><title>Relationships Are Your Competitive Advantage with Ed Wallace</title><enclosure url="https://feeds.podetize.com/ep/OwXrjk7lJ/media/QIpxkKapij.mp3" length="53624892" type="audio/mpeg"></enclosure><guid isPermaLink="false">OwXrjk7lJ</guid><pubDate>Thu, 10 Sep 2026 12:00:00 GMT</pubDate><itunes:duration>3345</itunes:duration><link>https://thebluecollarsmart.com/episode/relationships-are-your-competitive-advantage-with-ed-wallace</link><itunes:explicit>false</itunes:explicit><description><![CDATA[<p>On Blue Collar Smart, Hugh Hornsby welcomes author and business relationship expert Ed Wallace for a practical conversation about building relational capital in sales, leadership, and the trades. Wallace explains how a family emergency led him to leave a successful corporate sales career and create a training company built around credibility, integrity, and authenticity. He shares his three-part learning model of stories, tools, and process while introducing relational GPS, the Fab Five, and the relationship ladder. Hugh and Ed examine why transactional thinking limits sales teams, how private equity-backed companies risk losing valuable relationships during acquisitions, and why active listening helps tradespeople stand apart from their competitors. Wallace also explains how leaders can use AI without losing their voice and shows how understanding another person’s goals, passions, and struggles creates stronger, lasting business relationships.</p><p><br></p><p>00:00 — Authenticity and Relational Capital</p><p> 01:55 — Meet Ed Wallace</p><p> 06:35 — From CPA to Founder</p><p> 11:50 — Practical Relationship Training</p><p> 18:35 — Build Your Fab Five</p><p> 23:20 — Transactional Sales Problem</p><p> 27:05 — Relationships Between the Boxes</p><p> 31:40 — Active Listening Wins Business</p><p> 38:15 — AI Without Losing Humanity</p><p> 49:45 — The Relational GPS</p><p><br></p><p>Thanks for listening, and please share this episode with a trade leader who is ready to build something bigger than a business. Every share helps us reach more owners, executives, and industry leaders who are committed to investing in their people and strengthening the future of the trades.</p><p><br></p><p>Have a great day.</p><p><br></p><p><strong>Hugh Hornsby</strong></p><p><br></p><p><em>"People build businesses. Invest in your people, and they'll invest in your future."</em></p><h2><br></h2><h2>CONNECT with Hugh Hornsby &amp; Blue Collar Smart</h2><p><br></p><p>Get practical leadership insights, proven people-first strategies, and resources designed to help trade leaders build stronger teams, grow profitable businesses, and create organizations that stand the test of time. Join a community of owners, executives, and industry leaders who believe the future of the trades is built on people, relationships, and leadership.</p><p><br></p><p><strong>Join the Community:</strong></p><p><a href="http://www.thebluecollarsmart.com/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank" style="color: rgb(17, 85, 204);">www.thebluecollarsmart.com</a> and <a href="http://www.hughhornsby.com/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank" style="color: rgb(17, 85, 204);">www.hughhornsby.com</a></p><p><br></p><p><br></p><p><strong>Follow Hugh Hornsby:</strong></p><p>LinkedIn: <a href="https://www.linkedin.com/in/hugh-hornsby-51986b10/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">https://www.linkedin.com/in/hugh-hornsby-51986b10/</a></p><p><br></p><p>Interested in executive advisory, leadership coaching, speaking, or mastermind opportunities? Connect with Hugh and discover how a people-first approach can help your organization grow with purpose, clarity, and lasting impact.</p><p><br></p><p>Guest Links</p><p>AchieveNEXT: <a href="https://achievenext.com/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">https://achievenext.com</a></p><p>LInkedIn: <a href="https://linkedin.com/in/edwallace" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank" style="color: rgb(17, 85, 204);">https://linkedin.com/in/edwallace</a></p><p><br></p><p>Thank you to our sponsors </p><p><strong>iWallet</strong> <a href="https://www.iwallet.com/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">https://www.iwallet.com/</a></p><p><strong>Distro</strong> <a href="http://distro.app/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank" style="color: rgb(17, 85, 204);">distro.app</a></p><br><p>Visit iWallet at <a href="https://www.iwallet.com/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank" style="background-color: rgb(255, 255, 255);">https://www.iwallet.com/</a></p><p>Visit iWallet at <a href="https://www.iwallet.com/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank" style="background-color: rgb(255, 255, 255);">https://www.iwallet.com/</a></p>]]></description><itunes:image href="https://feeds.podetize.com/Tq-bBgcEf.png"></itunes:image><itunes:season>1</itunes:season><itunes:episode>9</itunes:episode></item><item><title>Build a People-First AI Strategy with Jason Sullivan</title><enclosure url="https://feeds.podetize.com/ep/wm99CNM9S/media/fACqMjp8_2.mp3" length="48025863" type="audio/mpeg"></enclosure><guid isPermaLink="false">wm99CNM9S</guid><pubDate>Thu, 03 Sep 2026 12:00:00 GMT</pubDate><itunes:duration>2989</itunes:duration><link>https://thebluecollarsmart.com/episode/build-a-people-first-ai-strategy-with-jason-sullivan</link><itunes:explicit>false</itunes:explicit><description><![CDATA[<p>In this episode of <strong>Blue Collar Smart</strong>, Hugh Hornsby welcomes Jason Sullivan, founder of Distro, to explore how artificial intelligence can help trade distributors transform their businesses without losing their people-first culture. Jason shares how his background in cognitive science, computer science, finance, and AI led him into the distribution industry. The conversation covers preserving knowledge as experienced employees retire, helping teams embrace new technology, protecting company data, navigating private equity and succession, and using AI as a force multiplier rather than a replacement for people. Jason also shares practical leadership lessons from building Distro and explains why strong founders must remain students of their employees, customers, and industry.</p><p><br></p><p>00:00 — Why AI is really business transformation</p><p>02:50 — Combining cognitive science with artificial intelligence</p><p>07:00 — Preserving expertise as the workforce ages</p><p>11:31 — Introducing AI into a people-first business</p><p>18:42 — Protecting your data when adopting AI</p><p>24:39 — Why founders need the right support system</p><p>31:40 — Private equity, succession, and competitive leverage</p><p>40:09 — Jason’s “yellow pad” leadership lesson</p><p><br></p><p>Thanks for listening, and please share this episode with a trade leader who is ready to build something bigger than a business. Every share helps us reach more owners, executives, and industry leaders who are committed to investing in their people and strengthening the future of the trades.</p><p><br></p><p>Have a great day.</p><p><br></p><p><strong>Hugh Hornsby</strong></p><p><br></p><p><em>"People build businesses. Invest in your people, and they'll invest in your future."</em></p><h2><br></h2><h2>CONNECT with Hugh Hornsby &amp; Blue Collar Smart</h2><p><br></p><p>Get practical leadership insights, proven people-first strategies, and resources designed to help trade leaders build stronger teams, grow profitable businesses, and create organizations that stand the test of time. Join a community of owners, executives, and industry leaders who believe the future of the trades is built on people, relationships, and leadership.</p><p><br></p><p><strong>Join the Community:</strong></p><p><a href="http://www.thebluecollarsmart.com/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank" style="color: rgb(17, 85, 204);">www.thebluecollarsmart.com</a> and <a href="http://www.hughhornsby.com/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank" style="color: rgb(17, 85, 204);">www.hughhornsby.com</a></p><p><br></p><p><br></p><p><strong>Follow Hugh Hornsby:</strong></p><p>LinkedIn: <a href="https://www.linkedin.com/in/hugh-hornsby-51986b10/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">https://www.linkedin.com/in/hugh-hornsby-51986b10/</a></p><p><br></p><p>Interested in executive advisory, leadership coaching, speaking, or mastermind opportunities? Connect with Hugh and discover how a people-first approach can help your organization grow with purpose, clarity, and lasting impact.</p><p><br></p><p>Guest Bio</p><p><span style="background-color: transparent; color: rgb(0, 0, 0);">Jason Sullivan is the founder and CEO of Distro, the Agentic AI Sales Platform purpose-built for wholesale distributors and manufacturers' reps. He holds a master's in computer science with a focus on artificial intelligence from Stanford and an undergraduate degree in cognitive science from Yale. This rare pairing gives him both deep technical mastery and a sharp understanding of how people actually adopt and use technology. </span></p><p><br></p><p>Links</p><p>Website: <a href="http://distro.app/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank" style="background-color: transparent; color: rgb(17, 85, 204);">distro.app</a></p><p>LinkedIn: <a href="https://www.linkedin.com/in/jasoncsullivan/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank" style="background-color: transparent; color: rgb(17, 85, 204);">https://www.linkedin.com/in/jasoncsullivan/</a></p><br><p>Visit iWallet at <a href="https://www.iwallet.com/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank" style="background-color: rgb(255, 255, 255);">https://www.iwallet.com/</a></p><p>Visit iWallet at <a href="https://www.iwallet.com/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">https://www.iwallet.com/</a></p>]]></description><itunes:image href="https://feeds.podetize.com/L3HumKjrV.png"></itunes:image><itunes:season>1</itunes:season><itunes:episode>8</itunes:episode></item><item><title>Integrity Is Your Greatest Asset with Sir Darren Jacklin</title><enclosure url="https://feeds.podetize.com/ep/LNyo3YDAa/media/bfUXzkHAa.mp3" length="46863610" type="audio/mpeg"></enclosure><guid isPermaLink="false">LNyo3YDAa</guid><pubDate>Thu, 27 Aug 2026 12:00:00 GMT</pubDate><itunes:duration>2919</itunes:duration><link>https://thebluecollarsmart.com/episode/integrity-is-your-greatest-asset-with-sir-darren-jacklin</link><itunes:explicit>false</itunes:explicit><description><![CDATA[<p>In this episode of <strong>Blue Collar Smart</strong>, Hugh Hornsby welcomes entrepreneur, philanthropist, author, and global business leader Sir Darren Jacklin to discuss how adversity can become the foundation for resilience, leadership, and lasting impact. Sir Darren shares how he moved beyond learning disabilities, mental health struggles, homelessness, and financial ruin to help grow eXp Realty into a multibillion-dollar company. He also explains why relationships, controlled discomfort, clear goals, thoughtful succession planning, and personal integrity are essential to building businesses that serve people and create a meaningful legacy.</p><p><br></p><p>00:00 — The vision behind Blue Collar Smart</p><p>02:00 — Overcoming early labels and a mental health crisis</p><p>07:30 — Why entrepreneurs often feel misunderstood</p><p>11:40 — Building success through service and relationships</p><p>18:45 — The network that led Sir Darren to eXp Realty</p><p>25:45 — Acquiring businesses to fund global philanthropy</p><p>28:25 — Preparing a business for succession and retirement</p><p>33:45 — From homelessness and financial ruin to millionaire</p><p>39:05 — Acting despite fear, doubt, and discomfort</p><p>42:05 — Why integrity gives your words power</p><p><br></p><p>Thanks for listening, and please share this episode with a trade leader who is ready to build something bigger than a business. Every share helps us reach more owners, executives, and industry leaders who are committed to investing in their people and strengthening the future of the trades.</p><p><br></p><p>Have a great day.</p><p><br></p><p><strong>Hugh Hornsby</strong></p><p><br></p><p><em>"People build businesses. Invest in your people, and they'll invest in your future."</em></p><h2><br></h2><h2>CONNECT with Hugh Hornsby &amp; Blue Collar Smart</h2><p><br></p><p>Get practical leadership insights, proven people-first strategies, and resources designed to help trade leaders build stronger teams, grow profitable businesses, and create organizations that stand the test of time. Join a community of owners, executives, and industry leaders who believe the future of the trades is built on people, relationships, and leadership.</p><p><br></p><p><strong>Join the Community:</strong></p><p><a href="http://www.thebluecollarsmart.com/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank" style="color: rgb(17, 85, 204);">www.thebluecollarsmart.com</a> and <a href="http://www.hughhornsby.com/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank" style="color: rgb(17, 85, 204);">www.hughhornsby.com</a></p><p><br></p><p><br></p><p><strong>Follow Hugh Hornsby:</strong></p><p>LinkedIn: <a href="https://www.linkedin.com/in/hugh-hornsby-51986b10/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">https://www.linkedin.com/in/hugh-hornsby-51986b10/</a></p><p><br></p><p>Interested in executive advisory, leadership coaching, speaking, or mastermind opportunities? Connect with Hugh and discover how a people-first approach can help your organization grow with purpose, clarity, and lasting impact.</p><p><br></p><p>Thank you to our sponsors </p><p><strong>iWallet</strong> <a href="https://www.iwallet.com/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">https://www.iwallet.com/</a></p><p><strong>Distro</strong> <a href="http://distro.app/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank" style="color: rgb(17, 85, 204);">distro.app</a></p><br><p>Learn more about Distro at <a href="https://www.google.com/url?q=http://distro.app/&amp;sa=D&amp;source=calendar&amp;ust=1791667018224406&amp;usg=AOvVaw0fHmGwAp340sc6GbhWLC1a" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank" style="color: rgb(11, 87, 208); background-color: rgb(255, 255, 255);">distro.app</a></p><p>Learn more about Distro at <a href="https://www.google.com/url?q=http://distro.app/&amp;sa=D&amp;source=calendar&amp;ust=1791667018224406&amp;usg=AOvVaw0fHmGwAp340sc6GbhWLC1a" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank" style="color: rgb(11, 87, 208); background-color: rgb(255, 255, 255);">distro.app</a></p>]]></description><itunes:image href="https://feeds.podetize.com/-pd6FctlN.png"></itunes:image><itunes:season>1</itunes:season><itunes:episode>7</itunes:episode></item><item><title>People First - Technology Second with Randy Chaffee</title><enclosure url="https://feeds.podetize.com/ep/MM-Hv6SHX/media/nFKbzm7AJq.mp3" length="43746153" type="audio/mpeg"></enclosure><guid isPermaLink="false">MM-Hv6SHX</guid><pubDate>Thu, 20 Aug 2026 12:00:00 GMT</pubDate><itunes:duration>2734</itunes:duration><link>https://thebluecollarsmart.com/episode/people-first-technology-second-with-randy-chaffee</link><itunes:explicit>false</itunes:explicit><description><![CDATA[<p><span style="background-color: transparent; color: rgb(0, 0, 0);">Randy Chaffee joins Hugh Hornsby for a conversation about leadership, adaptability, and why relationships remain the greatest competitive advantage in today's rapidly changing trades industry. With more than four decades of experience in building materials, manufacturing, sales, and industry leadership, Chaffee shares how growing up on a Michigan farm shaped his work ethic, why serving people always outperforms chasing transactions, and how personal branding has become just as important as product knowledge.</span></p><p><br></p><p><span style="background-color: transparent; color: rgb(0, 0, 0);">Together they discuss the evolution of sales after COVID, the role of digital communication and AI, the importance of hybrid relationship-building, and why technology should amplify—not replace—human connection. The conversation also explores recruiting the next generation into the trades, supporting women and underrepresented groups in the industry, financial education, private equity, leadership culture, and the mindset required to continually adapt as the business landscape evolves. Chaffee closes by encouraging leaders to embrace change while remaining grounded in their core values, reminding listeners that their greatest asset will always be their willingness to learn, grow, and serve others.</span></p><p><br></p><p><strong style="background-color: transparent; color: rgb(0, 0, 0);">00:00</strong><span style="background-color: transparent; color: rgb(0, 0, 0);"> Adaptability Is Your Greatest Advantage</span></p><p><strong style="background-color: transparent; color: rgb(0, 0, 0);">01:15</strong><span style="background-color: transparent; color: rgb(0, 0, 0);"> Welcome to Blue Collar Smart</span></p><p><strong style="background-color: transparent; color: rgb(0, 0, 0);">02:15</strong><span style="background-color: transparent; color: rgb(0, 0, 0);"> Randy Chaffee's Journey into the Trades</span></p><p><strong style="background-color: transparent; color: rgb(0, 0, 0);">04:35</strong><span style="background-color: transparent; color: rgb(0, 0, 0);"> Lessons Learned on the Family Farm</span></p><p><strong style="background-color: transparent; color: rgb(0, 0, 0);">06:25</strong><span style="background-color: transparent; color: rgb(0, 0, 0);"> Why You Must Love What You Do</span></p><p><strong style="background-color: transparent; color: rgb(0, 0, 0);">08:05</strong><span style="background-color: transparent; color: rgb(0, 0, 0);"> Relationships Over Transactions</span></p><p><strong style="background-color: transparent; color: rgb(0, 0, 0);">10:25</strong><span style="background-color: transparent; color: rgb(0, 0, 0);"> Playing the Long Game in Sales</span></p><p><strong style="background-color: transparent; color: rgb(0, 0, 0);">11:25</strong><span style="background-color: transparent; color: rgb(0, 0, 0);"> Becoming Part of the Industry</span></p><p><strong style="background-color: transparent; color: rgb(0, 0, 0);">13:30</strong><span style="background-color: transparent; color: rgb(0, 0, 0);"> Building Trust That Lasts</span></p><p><strong style="background-color: transparent; color: rgb(0, 0, 0);">14:30</strong><span style="background-color: transparent; color: rgb(0, 0, 0);"> Advice for Young Sales Professionals</span></p><p><strong style="background-color: transparent; color: rgb(0, 0, 0);">15:10</strong><span style="background-color: transparent; color: rgb(0, 0, 0);"> You Are Your Brand</span></p><p><strong style="background-color: transparent; color: rgb(0, 0, 0);">17:20</strong><span style="background-color: transparent; color: rgb(0, 0, 0);"> Selling Yourself Before Your Product</span></p><p><strong style="background-color: transparent; color: rgb(0, 0, 0);">19:25</strong><span style="background-color: transparent; color: rgb(0, 0, 0);"> Private Equity and Industry Change</span></p><p><strong style="background-color: transparent; color: rgb(0, 0, 0);">20:45</strong><span style="background-color: transparent; color: rgb(0, 0, 0);"> The Power of Hybrid Selling</span></p><p><strong style="background-color: transparent; color: rgb(0, 0, 0);">23:40</strong><span style="background-color: transparent; color: rgb(0, 0, 0);"> AI as a Force Multiplier</span></p><p><strong style="background-color: transparent; color: rgb(0, 0, 0);">24:20</strong><span style="background-color: transparent; color: rgb(0, 0, 0);"> Why the Trades Need More Women</span></p><p><strong style="background-color: transparent; color: rgb(0, 0, 0);">26:35</strong><span style="background-color: transparent; color: rgb(0, 0, 0);"> Building Careers Through the Trades</span></p><p><strong style="background-color: transparent; color: rgb(0, 0, 0);">28:20</strong><span style="background-color: transparent; color: rgb(0, 0, 0);"> Teaching Financial Intelligence</span></p><p><strong style="background-color: transparent; color: rgb(0, 0, 0);">31:25</strong><span style="background-color: transparent; color: rgb(0, 0, 0);"> Mindset Creates Financial Success</span></p><p><strong style="background-color: transparent; color: rgb(0, 0, 0);">33:30</strong><span style="background-color: transparent; color: rgb(0, 0, 0);"> People Are the Greatest Asset</span></p><p><strong style="background-color: transparent; color: rgb(0, 0, 0);">35:45</strong><span style="background-color: transparent; color: rgb(0, 0, 0);"> Systems and Street Smarts</span></p><p><strong style="background-color: transparent; color: rgb(0, 0, 0);">38:35</strong><span style="background-color: transparent; color: rgb(0, 0, 0);"> Randy's Yellow Pad Moment</span></p><p><strong style="background-color: transparent; color: rgb(0, 0, 0);">40:40</strong><span style="background-color: transparent; color: rgb(0, 0, 0);"> Becoming an Adapter</span></p><p><strong style="background-color: transparent; color: rgb(0, 0, 0);">42:00</strong><span style="background-color: transparent; color: rgb(0, 0, 0);"> You're Capable of More Than You Think</span></p><p><strong style="background-color: transparent; color: rgb(0, 0, 0);">43:40</strong><span style="background-color: transparent; color: rgb(0, 0, 0);"> Final Thoughts on Leadership</span></p><p><br></p><p><br></p><p>Thanks for listening, and please share this episode with a trade leader who is ready to build something bigger than a business. Every share helps us reach more owners, executives, and industry leaders who are committed to investing in their people and strengthening the future of the trades.</p><p><br></p><p><span style="background-color: transparent; color: rgb(0, 0, 0);">About Guest</span></p><p><span style="background-color: transparent; color: rgb(0, 0, 0);">Randy L. Chaffee is the #1 Amazon Best Selling Author of Asphalt and Algorithms, with his newest book, The Closers Part 7, coming soon. Known as #HybridRoadWarriorRandy, he has spent more than four decades helping businesses grow through relationships, reputation, and practical sales strategies. As a speaker, author, and host of BuildingWins.LIVE, Randy combines old-school relationship selling with today’s digital tools to help professionals succeed in a changing marketplace.</span></p><p><br></p><p><br></p><p><br></p><p>Have a great day.</p><p><br></p><p><strong>Hugh Hornsby</strong></p><p><br></p><p><em>"People build businesses. Invest in your people, and they'll invest in your future."</em></p><h2><br></h2><h2>CONNECT with Hugh Hornsby &amp; Blue Collar Smart</h2><p><br></p><p>Get practical leadership insights, proven people-first strategies, and resources designed to help trade leaders build stronger teams, grow profitable businesses, and create organizations that stand the test of time. Join a community of owners, executives, and industry leaders who believe the future of the trades is built on people, relationships, and leadership.</p><p><br></p><p><strong>Join the Community:</strong></p><p><a href="http://www.thebluecollarsmart.com/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank" style="background-color: rgb(255, 255, 255); color: rgb(17, 85, 204);">www.thebluecollarsmart.com</a> and <a href="http://www.hughhornsby.com/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank" style="background-color: rgb(255, 255, 255); color: rgb(17, 85, 204);">www.hughhornsby.com</a></p><p><br></p><p><strong>Follow Hugh Hornsby:</strong></p><p>LinkedIn: <a href="https://www.linkedin.com/in/hugh-hornsby-51986b10/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">https://www.linkedin.com/in/hugh-hornsby-51986b10/</a></p><p><br></p><p>Interested in executive advisory, leadership coaching, speaking, or mastermind opportunities? Connect with Hugh and discover how a people-first approach can help your organization grow with purpose, clarity, and lasting impact.</p><p><br></p><p>Thank you to our sponsors </p><p><strong>iWallet</strong> <a href="https://www.iwallet.com/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">https://www.iwallet.com/</a></p><p><strong>Distro</strong> <a href="http://distro.app/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank" style="color: rgb(17, 85, 204);">distro.app</a></p><br><p>Learn more about Distro at <a href="https://www.google.com/url?q=http://distro.app/&amp;sa=D&amp;source=calendar&amp;ust=1791667018224406&amp;usg=AOvVaw0fHmGwAp340sc6GbhWLC1a" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank" style="color: rgb(11, 87, 208); background-color: rgb(255, 255, 255);">distro.app</a></p><p>Learn more about Distro at <a href="https://www.google.com/url?q=http://distro.app/&amp;sa=D&amp;source=calendar&amp;ust=1791667018224406&amp;usg=AOvVaw0fHmGwAp340sc6GbhWLC1a" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank" style="background-color: rgb(255, 255, 255); color: rgb(11, 87, 208);">distro.app</a></p>]]></description><itunes:image href="https://feeds.podetize.com/sMVYmMEkG.png"></itunes:image><itunes:season>1</itunes:season><itunes:episode>6</itunes:episode></item><item><title>Building the Future of Contractor Commerce with Jim Kolchin</title><enclosure url="https://feeds.podetize.com/ep/kWf8oO9fq/media/XSq-UuETVJ.mp3" length="35410668" type="audio/mpeg"></enclosure><guid isPermaLink="false">kWf8oO9fq</guid><pubDate>Thu, 13 Aug 2026 12:00:00 GMT</pubDate><itunes:duration>2213</itunes:duration><link>https://thebluecollarsmart.com/episode/building-the-future-of-contractor-commerce-with-jim-kolchin</link><itunes:explicit>false</itunes:explicit><description><![CDATA[<p><span style="background-color: transparent; color: rgb(0, 0, 0);">Jim Kolchin, founder and CEO of iWallet, joins Hugh Hornsby to explore how financial technology is reshaping the HVAC, plumbing, electrical, and broader trades industries. Drawing from his experience as an HVAC contractor and serial entrepreneur, Kolchin shares his journey from immigrating to the United States with just $200 to building multiple successful companies dedicated to helping contractors operate more efficiently. He explains how iWallet simplifies payment processing, eliminates friction between contractors and distributors, and creates a better digital buying experience.</span></p><p><span style="background-color: transparent; color: rgb(0, 0, 0);">The conversation examines the industry's shift toward B2B2C commerce, where contractors can build complete equipment bundles online and homeowners can seamlessly approve estimates, finance projects, and make payments. Kolchin discusses the growing importance of digital adoption, the challenges distributors face with outdated ordering systems, and why improving user experience is critical for the future of the trades. They also explore private equity's influence, faster payment models, bundled solutions, and the entrepreneurial mindset required to identify opportunities others overlook. Throughout the discussion, both emphasize gratitude, innovation, and serving contractors through better technology.</span></p><p><strong style="background-color: transparent; color: rgb(0, 0, 0);">00:00</strong><span style="background-color: transparent; color: rgb(0, 0, 0);"> Digital Commerce Is Changing the Trades</span></p><p><strong style="background-color: transparent; color: rgb(0, 0, 0);">01:00</strong><span style="background-color: transparent; color: rgb(0, 0, 0);"> Welcome and Meet Jim Kolchin</span></p><p><strong style="background-color: transparent; color: rgb(0, 0, 0);">02:10</strong><span style="background-color: transparent; color: rgb(0, 0, 0);"> From Soviet Union to HVAC Entrepreneur</span></p><p><strong style="background-color: transparent; color: rgb(0, 0, 0);">04:10</strong><span style="background-color: transparent; color: rgb(0, 0, 0);"> Understanding Financial Technology</span></p><p><strong style="background-color: transparent; color: rgb(0, 0, 0);">05:10</strong><span style="background-color: transparent; color: rgb(0, 0, 0);"> Solving Contractor Payment Problems</span></p><p><strong style="background-color: transparent; color: rgb(0, 0, 0);">07:10</strong><span style="background-color: transparent; color: rgb(0, 0, 0);"> How iWallet Started</span></p><p><strong style="background-color: transparent; color: rgb(0, 0, 0);">08:10</strong><span style="background-color: transparent; color: rgb(0, 0, 0);"> Processing Over One Billion Dollars</span></p><p><strong style="background-color: transparent; color: rgb(0, 0, 0);">09:20</strong><span style="background-color: transparent; color: rgb(0, 0, 0);"> The Evolution of Distributor Technology</span></p><p><strong style="background-color: transparent; color: rgb(0, 0, 0);">11:00</strong><span style="background-color: transparent; color: rgb(0, 0, 0);"> Digital Ordering Is the Future</span></p><p><strong style="background-color: transparent; color: rgb(0, 0, 0);">13:05</strong><span style="background-color: transparent; color: rgb(0, 0, 0);"> Understanding the B2B2C Model</span></p><p><strong style="background-color: transparent; color: rgb(0, 0, 0);">14:35</strong><span style="background-color: transparent; color: rgb(0, 0, 0);"> Why User Experience Matters</span></p><p><strong style="background-color: transparent; color: rgb(0, 0, 0);">16:10</strong><span style="background-color: transparent; color: rgb(0, 0, 0);"> Bridging Contractors and Distributors</span></p><p><strong style="background-color: transparent; color: rgb(0, 0, 0);">17:00</strong><span style="background-color: transparent; color: rgb(0, 0, 0);"> Building an Amazon-Style Buying Experience</span></p><p><strong style="background-color: transparent; color: rgb(0, 0, 0);">18:30</strong><span style="background-color: transparent; color: rgb(0, 0, 0);"> Closing the Digital Adoption Gap</span></p><p><strong style="background-color: transparent; color: rgb(0, 0, 0);">20:25</strong><span style="background-color: transparent; color: rgb(0, 0, 0);"> Creating Equipment Bundles That Work</span></p><p><strong style="background-color: transparent; color: rgb(0, 0, 0);">22:50</strong><span style="background-color: transparent; color: rgb(0, 0, 0);"> Private Equity and Industry Growth</span></p><p><strong style="background-color: transparent; color: rgb(0, 0, 0);">25:45</strong><span style="background-color: transparent; color: rgb(0, 0, 0);"> How Distributors Can Get Started</span></p><p><strong style="background-color: transparent; color: rgb(0, 0, 0);">27:20</strong><span style="background-color: transparent; color: rgb(0, 0, 0);"> Splitting Payments Seamlessly</span></p><p><strong style="background-color: transparent; color: rgb(0, 0, 0);">29:10</strong><span style="background-color: transparent; color: rgb(0, 0, 0);"> Eliminating Net-30 and Net-60 Delays</span></p><p><strong style="background-color: transparent; color: rgb(0, 0, 0);">30:15</strong><span style="background-color: transparent; color: rgb(0, 0, 0);"> Staying Ahead of Industry Trends</span></p><p><strong style="background-color: transparent; color: rgb(0, 0, 0);">31:15</strong><span style="background-color: transparent; color: rgb(0, 0, 0);"> Entrepreneurship and Opportunity</span></p><p><strong style="background-color: transparent; color: rgb(0, 0, 0);">32:30</strong><span style="background-color: transparent; color: rgb(0, 0, 0);"> The Power of Gratitude</span></p><p><strong style="background-color: transparent; color: rgb(0, 0, 0);">33:45</strong><span style="background-color: transparent; color: rgb(0, 0, 0);"> Final Leadership Advice</span></p><p><strong style="background-color: transparent; color: rgb(0, 0, 0);">34:50</strong><span style="background-color: transparent; color: rgb(0, 0, 0);"> How to Connect with iWallet</span></p><p><br></p><p><br></p><p><br></p><p>Thanks for listening, and please share this episode with a trade leader who is ready to build something bigger than a business. Every share helps us reach more owners, executives, and industry leaders who are committed to investing in their people and strengthening the future of the trades.</p><p><br></p><p>Have a great day.</p><p><br></p><p><strong>Hugh Hornsby</strong></p><p><br></p><p><em>"People build businesses. Invest in your people, and they'll invest in your future."</em></p><h2><br></h2><h2>CONNECT with Hugh Hornsby &amp; Blue Collar Smart</h2><p><br></p><p>Get practical leadership insights, proven people-first strategies, and resources designed to help trade leaders build stronger teams, grow profitable businesses, and create organizations that stand the test of time. Join a community of owners, executives, and industry leaders who believe the future of the trades is built on people, relationships, and leadership.</p><p><br></p><p><strong>Join the Community:</strong></p><p><a href="http://www.thebluecollarsmart.com/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank" style="background-color: rgb(255, 255, 255); color: rgb(17, 85, 204);">www.thebluecollarsmart.com</a> and <a href="http://www.hughhornsby.com/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank" style="background-color: rgb(255, 255, 255); color: rgb(17, 85, 204);">www.hughhornsby.com</a></p><p><br></p><p><strong>Follow Hugh Hornsby:</strong></p><p>LinkedIn: <a href="https://www.linkedin.com/in/hugh-hornsby-51986b10/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">https://www.linkedin.com/in/hugh-hornsby-51986b10/</a></p><p><br></p><p>Interested in executive advisory, leadership coaching, speaking, or mastermind opportunities? Connect with Hugh and discover how a people-first approach can help your organization grow with purpose, clarity, and lasting impact.</p><p><br></p><p><span style="background-color: transparent; color: rgb(0, 0, 0);">About Guest</span></p><p><span style="color: rgb(34, 34, 34);">Jim Kolchin is a serial entrepreneur and inventor who has built companies in IoT, robotics, fintech, and now AI. His ventures have been featured by TechCrunch and </span><span style="color: rgb(34, 34, 34); background-color: transparent;">Forbes, and today</span><span style="color: rgb(34, 34, 34);"> he leads iWallet, a profitable fintech platform processing hundreds of millions of dollars annually while building AI infrastructure for the home service industry.&nbsp; </span></p><p><br></p><p>Links</p><p>iWallet <a href="https://www.iwallet.com/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">https://www.iwallet.com/</a></p><p><br></p><p>Thank you to our sponsors </p><p><strong>iWallet</strong> <a href="https://www.iwallet.com/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">https://www.iwallet.com/</a></p><p><strong>Distro</strong> <a href="http://distro.app/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank" style="color: rgb(17, 85, 204);">distro.app</a></p><br><p>Visit iWallet at <a href="https://www.iwallet.com/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank" style="background-color: rgb(255, 255, 255);">https://www.iwallet.com/</a></p><p>Visit iWallet at <a href="https://www.iwallet.com/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank" style="background-color: rgb(255, 255, 255);">https://www.iwallet.com/</a></p>]]></description><itunes:image href="https://feeds.podetize.com/wCN8X7lIc.png"></itunes:image><itunes:season>1</itunes:season><itunes:episode>5</itunes:episode></item><item><title>Integrity and Relationship Building with Mark Hunter</title><enclosure url="https://feeds.podetize.com/ep/lQ6KGSu8a/media/UjoxDW6pMw.mp3" length="40106635" type="audio/mpeg"></enclosure><guid isPermaLink="false">lQ6KGSu8a</guid><pubDate>Thu, 06 Aug 2026 10:00:00 GMT</pubDate><itunes:duration>2507</itunes:duration><link>https://thebluecollarsmart.com/episode/integrity-and-relationship-building-with-mark-hunter</link><itunes:explicit>false</itunes:explicit><description><![CDATA[<p><span style="background-color: rgb(253, 252, 252); color: rgb(63, 42, 50);">Hugh Hornsby hosts Mark Hunter, author of five books including "Integrity First Selling," on a trades-focused podcast about sales as relationship-based service. Hunter recounts entering sales only to get a company car after too many speeding tickets, being fired twice, and then learning from a leader to listen, ask questions, and build authentic trust. They discuss prospecting as an obligation to help, alignment of values with customers, and walking away from misaligned deals. The conversation covers private equity’s growing role, AI as an efficiency tool that supports rather than replaces people, and challenges from an aging workforce and lost institutional knowledge. They emphasize recurring revenue models, digital transactions growth, and investing in training and culture to retain talent. Hunter argues nothing is a commodity because sellers bundle outcomes and reliability, shares a disciplined morning routine, and says salespeople will remain essential; he can be reached at thesaleshunter.com.</span></p><p><br></p><p><span style="background-color: rgb(253, 252, 252); color: rgb(63, 42, 50);">00:00 Welcome to the Podcast</span></p><p><span style="background-color: rgb(253, 252, 252); color: rgb(63, 42, 50);">01:22 Why Integrity Matters</span></p><p><span style="background-color: rgb(253, 252, 252); color: rgb(63, 42, 50);">03:21 Mark’s Sales Origin Story</span></p><p><span style="background-color: rgb(253, 252, 252); color: rgb(63, 42, 50);">04:45 Getting Fired and Getting Real</span></p><p><span style="background-color: rgb(253, 252, 252); color: rgb(63, 42, 50);">05:19 The Mentor Who Changed Everything</span></p><p><span style="background-color: rgb(253, 252, 252); color: rgb(63, 42, 50);">08:12 Sales Is Listening</span></p><p><span style="background-color: rgb(253, 252, 252); color: rgb(63, 42, 50);">09:18 Prospecting as Service</span></p><p><span style="background-color: rgb(253, 252, 252); color: rgb(63, 42, 50);">11:25 Client Alignment and Values</span></p><p><span style="background-color: rgb(253, 252, 252); color: rgb(63, 42, 50);">13:37 Private Equity in the Trades</span></p><p><span style="background-color: rgb(253, 252, 252); color: rgb(63, 42, 50);">15:41 AI Tools for Efficiency</span></p><p><span style="background-color: rgb(253, 252, 252); color: rgb(63, 42, 50);">19:09 Aging Workforce and Opportunity</span></p><p><span style="background-color: rgb(253, 252, 252); color: rgb(63, 42, 50);">20:40 Recurring Revenue Matters</span></p><p><span style="background-color: rgb(253, 252, 252); color: rgb(63, 42, 50);">21:28 Seasonal Profit Lessons</span></p><p><span style="background-color: rgb(253, 252, 252); color: rgb(63, 42, 50);">22:20 Digital HVAC Shift</span></p><p><span style="background-color: rgb(253, 252, 252); color: rgb(63, 42, 50);">24:18 Investing in People</span></p><p><span style="background-color: rgb(253, 252, 252); color: rgb(63, 42, 50);">27:39 Founder Trap Burnout</span></p><p><span style="background-color: rgb(253, 252, 252); color: rgb(63, 42, 50);">29:19 Rollups Efficiency Gains</span></p><p><span style="background-color: rgb(253, 252, 252); color: rgb(63, 42, 50);">30:26 Techs vs Sales Roles</span></p><p><span style="background-color: rgb(253, 252, 252); color: rgb(63, 42, 50);">31:51 Stop Selling Commodities</span></p><p><span style="background-color: rgb(253, 252, 252); color: rgb(63, 42, 50);">34:10 Bundling Value Add</span></p><p><span style="background-color: rgb(253, 252, 252); color: rgb(63, 42, 50);">36:54 Yellow Pad Routine</span></p><p><span style="background-color: rgb(253, 252, 252); color: rgb(63, 42, 50);">37:53 Future of Sales AI</span></p><p><span style="background-color: rgb(253, 252, 252); color: rgb(63, 42, 50);">38:54 Where to Find Mark</span></p><p><span style="background-color: rgb(253, 252, 252); color: rgb(63, 42, 50);">39:35 Closing Appreciation</span></p><p><br></p><p>Thanks for listening, and please share this episode with a trade leader who is ready to build something bigger than a business. Every share helps us reach more owners, executives, and industry leaders who are committed to investing in their people and strengthening the future of the trades.</p><p><br></p><p>Have a great day.</p><p><br></p><p><strong>Hugh Hornsby</strong></p><p><br></p><p><em>"People build businesses. Invest in your people, and they'll invest in your future."</em></p><h2><br></h2><h2>CONNECT with Hugh Hornsby &amp; Blue Collar Smart</h2><p><br></p><p>Get practical leadership insights, proven people-first strategies, and resources designed to help trade leaders build stronger teams, grow profitable businesses, and create organizations that stand the test of time. Join a community of owners, executives, and industry leaders who believe the future of the trades is built on people, relationships, and leadership.</p><p><br></p><p><strong>Join the Community:</strong></p><p><a href="http://www.thebluecollarsmart.com/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank" style="background-color: rgb(255, 255, 255); color: rgb(17, 85, 204);">www.thebluecollarsmart.com</a> and <a href="http://www.hughhornsby.com/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank" style="background-color: rgb(255, 255, 255); color: rgb(17, 85, 204);">www.hughhornsby.com</a></p><p><br></p><p><strong>Follow Hugh Hornsby:</strong></p><p>LinkedIn: <a href="https://www.linkedin.com/in/hugh-hornsby-51986b10/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">https://www.linkedin.com/in/hugh-hornsby-51986b10/</a></p><p><br></p><p>Interested in executive advisory, leadership coaching, speaking, or mastermind opportunities? Connect with Hugh and discover how a people-first approach can help your organization grow with purpose, clarity, and lasting impact.</p><p><br></p><p><span style="background-color: transparent; color: rgb(0, 0, 0);">About Guest:&nbsp;</span></p><p><span style="background-color: transparent; color: rgb(0, 0, 0);">Mark Hunter is a globally sought after keynote speaker, trainer, and consultant on sales leadership. His mission is to motivate sales teams to rethink their prospecting process.With more than 15+ years in the corporate market working for Fortune 200 companies in senior positions leading hundreds of salespeople combined with his 20+ years experience as a sales consultant, speaker, and coach, Mark has been able to develop a methodology that salespeople and companies around the world use and have success with.</span></p><p><br></p><p><br></p><p><span style="background-color: transparent; color: rgb(0, 0, 0);">Links:</span></p><p><span style="background-color: transparent; color: rgb(0, 0, 0);">Website: </span><a href="https://thesaleshunter.com/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank" style="background-color: transparent; color: rgb(17, 85, 204);">https://thesaleshunter.com/</a></p><p><span style="background-color: transparent; color: rgb(0, 0, 0);">Facebook: </span><a href="https://www.facebook.com/TheSalesHunter" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank" style="background-color: transparent; color: rgb(17, 85, 204);">https://www.facebook.com/TheSalesHunter</a></p><p><span style="background-color: transparent; color: rgb(0, 0, 0);">Instagram: </span><a href="https://www.instagram.com/thesaleshunter/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank" style="background-color: transparent; color: rgb(17, 85, 204);">https://www.instagram.com/thesaleshunter/</a></p><p><span style="background-color: transparent; color: rgb(0, 0, 0);">YouTube: </span><a href="https://www.youtube.com/@MarkHunterTheSalesHunter" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank" style="background-color: transparent; color: rgb(17, 85, 204);">https://www.youtube.com/@MarkHunterTheSalesHunter</a></p><p><span style="background-color: transparent; color: rgb(0, 0, 0);">LinkedIn:: </span><a href="https://www.linkedin.com/company/thesaleshunter/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank" style="background-color: transparent; color: rgb(17, 85, 204);">https://www.linkedin.com/company/thesaleshunter/</a></p><p><br></p><p>Thank you to our sponsors </p><p><strong>iWallet</strong> <a href="https://www.iwallet.com/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">https://www.iwallet.com/</a></p><p><strong>Distro</strong> <a href="http://distro.app/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank" style="color: rgb(17, 85, 204);">distro.app</a></p><br><p>Visit iWallet at <a href="https://www.iwallet.com/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank" style="background-color: rgb(255, 255, 255);">https://www.iwallet.com/</a></p><p>Visit iWallet at <a href="https://www.iwallet.com/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">https://www.iwallet.com/</a></p>]]></description><itunes:image href="https://feeds.podetize.com/TyJf3dJez.png"></itunes:image><itunes:season>1</itunes:season><itunes:episode>4</itunes:episode></item><item><title>From Turmoil to Triumph with Dave Sanderson</title><enclosure url="https://feeds.podetize.com/ep/iBWSeUtun/media/nULxD-yc22.mp3" length="44588305" type="audio/mpeg"></enclosure><guid isPermaLink="false">iBWSeUtun</guid><pubDate>Thu, 30 Jul 2026 10:00:00 GMT</pubDate><itunes:duration>2787</itunes:duration><link>https://thebluecollarsmart.com/episode/from-turmoil-to-triumph-with-dave-sanderson</link><itunes:explicit>false</itunes:explicit><description><![CDATA[<p><span style="background-color: transparent; color: rgb(63, 42, 50);">Host Hugh Hornsby introduces the Blue Collar Smart podcast and interviews Dave Sanderson, a Miracle on the Hudson survivor and former sales leader. Sanderson recounts starting in factories and restaurants, learning humility and responsibility from a Christmas Eve shift where Bill Marriott helped run the kitchen, and developing resilience through door-to-door copier sales and handling rejection. He describes a key sales lesson at ADP about earning the right to be in influential rooms, later formalized as his A-to-I (access to influence to affinity) framework, and how strong client relationships showed up after the crash. Sanderson retells the 2009 ditching in the Hudson, his decision to help others, and how a manager’s response at Oracle pushed him toward speaking, books, and advising organizations via resilience frameworks, including VCR and ASSESS, emphasizing caring for people over numbers and managing state of mind.</span></p><p><br></p><p><span style="background-color: transparent; color: rgb(63, 42, 50);">00:00 Miracle on the Hudson</span></p><p><span style="background-color: transparent; color: rgb(63, 42, 50);">01:40 Dave’s Background</span></p><p><span style="background-color: transparent; color: rgb(63, 42, 50);">04:27 Starting at the Bottom</span></p><p><span style="background-color: transparent; color: rgb(63, 42, 50);">06:12 Marriott Leadership Lesson</span></p><p><span style="background-color: transparent; color: rgb(63, 42, 50);">10:05 Door to Door Sales</span></p><p><span style="background-color: transparent; color: rgb(63, 42, 50);">12:24 Mentor in the Restaurant</span></p><p><span style="background-color: transparent; color: rgb(63, 42, 50);">16:05 Depression Era Innovation</span></p><p><span style="background-color: transparent; color: rgb(63, 42, 50);">18:55 Enterprise Sales Mindset</span></p><p><span style="background-color: transparent; color: rgb(63, 42, 50);">22:20 Reputation on the Line</span></p><p><span style="background-color: transparent; color: rgb(63, 42, 50);">24:03 Access to Influence</span></p><p><span style="background-color: transparent; color: rgb(63, 42, 50);">26:42 Affinity in Action</span></p><p><span style="background-color: transparent; color: rgb(63, 42, 50);">30:17 Miracle on the Hudson</span></p><p><span style="background-color: transparent; color: rgb(63, 42, 50);">34:43 Back at Work Reality</span></p><p><span style="background-color: transparent; color: rgb(63, 42, 50);">36:03 People Over Numbers</span></p><p><span style="background-color: transparent; color: rgb(63, 42, 50);">38:04 Resilience Frameworks</span></p><p><span style="background-color: transparent; color: rgb(63, 42, 50);">40:56 Yellow Pad Mindset</span></p><p><span style="background-color: transparent; color: rgb(63, 42, 50);">42:20 Triggers and Growth</span></p><p><br></p><p>Thanks for listening, and please share this episode with a trade leader who is ready to build something bigger than a business. Every share helps us reach more owners, executives, and industry leaders who are committed to investing in their people and strengthening the future of the trades.</p><p><br></p><p>Have a great day.</p><p><br></p><p><strong>Hugh Hornsby</strong></p><p><br></p><p><em>"People build businesses. Invest in your people, and they'll invest in your future."</em></p><h2><br></h2><h2>CONNECT with Hugh Hornsby &amp; Blue Collar Smart</h2><p><br></p><p>Get practical leadership insights, proven people-first strategies, and resources designed to help trade leaders build stronger teams, grow profitable businesses, and create organizations that stand the test of time. Join a community of owners, executives, and industry leaders who believe the future of the trades is built on people, relationships, and leadership.</p><p><br></p><p><strong>Join the Community:</strong></p><p><a href="http://www.thebluecollarsmart.com/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank" style="background-color: rgb(255, 255, 255); color: rgb(17, 85, 204);">www.thebluecollarsmart.com</a> and <a href="http://www.hughhornsby.com/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank" style="background-color: rgb(255, 255, 255); color: rgb(17, 85, 204);">www.hughhornsby.com</a></p><p><br></p><p><strong>Follow Hugh Hornsby:</strong></p><p>LinkedIn: <a href="https://www.linkedin.com/in/hugh-hornsby-51986b10/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">https://www.linkedin.com/in/hugh-hornsby-51986b10/</a></p><p><br></p><p>Interested in executive advisory, leadership coaching, speaking, or mastermind opportunities? Connect with Hugh and discover how a people-first approach can help your organization grow with purpose, clarity, and lasting impact.</p><p><br></p><p>About Guest:</p><p><span style="background-color: transparent; color: rgb(0, 0, 0);">Dave Sanderson is a nationally recognized leadership speaker, author, and resilience expert best known as the last passenger off US Airways Flight 1549, the “Miracle on the Hudson.” Drawing on that defining experience, his years as a top sales leader at Oracle, and his work with Tony Robbins, Dave works with leaders and organizations to turn disruption into a competitive advantage. He has spoken to more than 1,700 audiences worldwide, sharing practical strategies on resilience, leadership, gratitude, and performing under pressure.</span></p><p><br></p><p>Links</p><p>Website <a href="https://resiliencepartnersgroup.com/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank" style="background-color: transparent; color: rgb(17, 85, 204);">https://resiliencepartnersgroup.com</a></p><p>LinkedIn <a href="https://www.linkedin.com/in/hiredavesanderson/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank" style="background-color: transparent; color: rgb(17, 85, 204);">https://www.linkedin.com/in/hiredavesanderson/</a></p><p>YouTube <a href="https://www.youtube.com/@DaveSandersonKeynoteSpeaker" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank" style="background-color: transparent; color: rgb(17, 85, 204);">https://www.youtube.com/@DaveSandersonKeynoteSpeaker</a></p><p>Facebook <a href="https://www.facebook.com/dave.sanderson.73" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank" style="background-color: transparent; color: rgb(17, 85, 204);">https://www.facebook.com/dave.sanderson.73</a></p><p><br></p><p>Thank you to our sponsors </p><p><strong>iWallet</strong> <a href="https://www.iwallet.com/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">https://www.iwallet.com/</a></p><p><strong>Distro</strong> <a href="http://distro.app/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank" style="color: rgb(17, 85, 204);">distro.app</a></p><br><p>Learn more about Distro at <a href="https://www.google.com/url?q=http://distro.app/&amp;sa=D&amp;source=calendar&amp;ust=1791667018224406&amp;usg=AOvVaw0fHmGwAp340sc6GbhWLC1a" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank" style="color: rgb(11, 87, 208); background-color: rgb(255, 255, 255);">distro.app</a></p><p>Learn more about Distro at <a href="https://www.google.com/url?q=http://distro.app/&amp;sa=D&amp;source=calendar&amp;ust=1791667018224406&amp;usg=AOvVaw0fHmGwAp340sc6GbhWLC1a" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank" style="color: rgb(11, 87, 208); background-color: rgb(255, 255, 255);">distro.app</a></p>]]></description><itunes:image href="https://feeds.podetize.com/-PbdqG6me.png"></itunes:image><itunes:season>1</itunes:season><itunes:episode>3</itunes:episode></item><item><title>Building a People First Business Culture with Eric Himes</title><enclosure url="https://feeds.podetize.com/ep/O1NPEtoAo/media/2Tc5F_SJHf.mp3" length="36316554" type="audio/mpeg"></enclosure><guid isPermaLink="false">O1NPEtoAo</guid><pubDate>Thu, 23 Jul 2026 10:00:00 GMT</pubDate><itunes:duration>2270</itunes:duration><link>https://thebluecollarsmart.com/episode/building-a-people-first-business-culture-with-eric-himes</link><itunes:explicit>false</itunes:explicit><description><![CDATA[<p><span style="background-color: transparent; color: rgb(63, 42, 50);">In this Blue Collar Smart Podcast episode, host Hugh interviews Eric Himes, creator of the Inspirational/Inspired Operating System and founder of The Inspired Culture, about leadership that multiplies and empowers people. Eric shares his career path from Home Depot to 19 years in medical devices, then burnout and losing his first marriage after prioritizing performance and travel over family, plus a faith-driven transformation that reshaped his view of worth and leadership. They discuss helping founders avoid carrying everything alone, trusting God, and building inclusive cultures without forcing beliefs. Eric outlines the Inspired OS framework to measure growth mindset weekly—personal why, vision alignment, habits, goals, wins, challenges to build strategic thinking, and frequent two-way feedback—plus organizational mindset scoring. He shares self-care practices, his website/contact, and the Inspired Culture Summit (Nov 16–17, Naperville, IL, with livestream).</span></p><p><br></p><p><span style="background-color: transparent; color: rgb(63, 42, 50);">00:00 Multiply Through People</span></p><p><span style="background-color: transparent; color: rgb(63, 42, 50);">00:51 Podcast Welcome Guest Intro</span></p><p><span style="background-color: transparent; color: rgb(63, 42, 50);">01:51 Eric Background Journey</span></p><p><span style="background-color: transparent; color: rgb(63, 42, 50);">03:59 Performance Burnout Wakeup</span></p><p><span style="background-color: transparent; color: rgb(63, 42, 50);">07:17 Faith Pivot Healing</span></p><p><span style="background-color: transparent; color: rgb(63, 42, 50);">09:39 Advice For Founders</span></p><p><span style="background-color: transparent; color: rgb(63, 42, 50);">12:09 Leading Across Beliefs</span></p><p><span style="background-color: transparent; color: rgb(63, 42, 50);">13:38 Inspired Culture At Work</span></p><p><span style="background-color: transparent; color: rgb(63, 42, 50);">17:09 Service Why Purpose</span></p><p><span style="background-color: transparent; color: rgb(63, 42, 50);">19:42 Self Care Alignment</span></p><p><span style="background-color: transparent; color: rgb(63, 42, 50);">22:41 Inspired OS Framework</span></p><p><span style="background-color: transparent; color: rgb(63, 42, 50);">26:09 Weekly Wins Challenges</span></p><p><span style="background-color: transparent; color: rgb(63, 42, 50);">29:50 Feedback Multiplies Leaders</span></p><p><span style="background-color: transparent; color: rgb(63, 42, 50);">31:48 Mindset Score Dashboards</span></p><p><span style="background-color: transparent; color: rgb(63, 42, 50);">32:51 Connect Summit Closing</span></p><p><br></p><p>Thanks for listening, and please share this episode with a trade leader who is ready to build something bigger than a business. Every share helps us reach more owners, executives, and industry leaders who are committed to investing in their people and strengthening the future of the trades.</p><p><br></p><p>Have a great day.</p><p><br></p><p><strong>Hugh Hornsby</strong></p><p><br></p><p><em>"People build businesses. Invest in your people, and they'll invest in your future."</em></p><h2><br></h2><h2>CONNECT with Hugh Hornsby &amp; Blue Collar Smart</h2><p><br></p><p>Get practical leadership insights, proven people-first strategies, and resources designed to help trade leaders build stronger teams, grow profitable businesses, and create organizations that stand the test of time. Join a community of owners, executives, and industry leaders who believe the future of the trades is built on people, relationships, and leadership.</p><p><br></p><p><strong>Join the Community:</strong></p><p><a href="http://www.thebluecollarsmart.com/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank" style="background-color: rgb(255, 255, 255); color: rgb(17, 85, 204);">www.thebluecollarsmart.com</a> and <a href="http://www.hughhornsby.com/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank" style="background-color: rgb(255, 255, 255); color: rgb(17, 85, 204);">www.hughhornsby.com</a></p><p><br></p><p><strong>Follow Hugh Hornsby:</strong></p><p>LinkedIn: <a href="https://www.linkedin.com/in/hugh-hornsby-51986b10/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">https://www.linkedin.com/in/hugh-hornsby-51986b10/</a></p><p><br></p><p>Interested in executive advisory, leadership coaching, speaking, or mastermind opportunities? Connect with Hugh and discover how a people-first approach can help your organization grow with purpose, clarity, and lasting impact.</p><p><br></p><p><span style="color: rgb(63, 42, 50); background-color: transparent;">Guest Bio:</span><span style="color: rgb(29, 31, 37);">Eric Himes is the Founder of </span><span style="color: rgb(29, 31, 37); background-color: transparent;">The Inspired Culture™</span><span style="color: rgb(29, 31, 37);">, author of the forthcoming book </span><em style="color: rgb(29, 31, 37); background-color: transparent;">The Empty Chair</em><span style="color: rgb(29, 31, 37);">, and a thought leader in holistic leadership development. He's a member of Thought Leaders 100, and his frameworks have driven a 46% reduction in turnover, 92% OKR completion, and $490K+ in annualized value. He is the creator of the Growth Mindset Framework &amp; Measurement System, the Inspired Culture Framework, and the 50 Masks of Leadership. He is also Founder and Host of Inspired Culture TV and creator of The Rising 99™ and The Inspired OS™. Outside of work, he is a husband, father of five, and marathon runner who has completed 8 marathons.</span></p><p><br></p><p><br></p><p><span style="color: rgb(63, 42, 50); background-color: transparent;">Links:</span></p><p><span style="color: rgb(0, 0, 0); background-color: transparent;">Website: </span><a href="http://www.yourpathinspired.com/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank" style="color: rgb(17, 85, 204);">www.yourpathinspired.com</a></p><p><span style="color: rgb(0, 0, 0); background-color: transparent;">LinkedIn: </span><a href="https://www.linkedin.com/in/eric-himes/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank" style="color: rgb(17, 85, 204);">https://www.linkedin.com/in/eric-himes/</a></p><p><span style="color: rgb(0, 0, 0); background-color: transparent;">YouTube: </span><a href="https://www.youtube.com/@TheInspiredCulture" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank" style="color: rgb(17, 85, 204);">https://www.youtube.com/@TheInspiredCulture</a></p><p><br></p><p>Thank you to our sponsors </p><p><strong>iWallet</strong> <a href="https://www.iwallet.com/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">https://www.iwallet.com/</a></p><p><strong>Distro</strong> <a href="http://distro.app/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank" style="color: rgb(17, 85, 204);">distro.app</a></p><br><p>Learn more about Distro at <a href="https://www.google.com/url?q=http://distro.app/&amp;sa=D&amp;source=calendar&amp;ust=1791667018224406&amp;usg=AOvVaw0fHmGwAp340sc6GbhWLC1a" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank" style="color: rgb(11, 87, 208); background-color: rgb(255, 255, 255);">distro.app</a></p><p>Learn more about Distro at <a href="https://www.google.com/url?q=http://distro.app/&amp;sa=D&amp;source=calendar&amp;ust=1791667018224406&amp;usg=AOvVaw0fHmGwAp340sc6GbhWLC1a" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank" style="background-color: rgb(255, 255, 255); color: rgb(11, 87, 208);">distro.app</a></p>]]></description><itunes:image href="https://feeds.podetize.com/OqBGCslp-.png"></itunes:image><itunes:season>1</itunes:season><itunes:episode>2</itunes:episode></item><item><title>Rooted in Resolve with Marlon Mueller</title><enclosure url="https://feeds.podetize.com/ep/VCWT_TfJ3/media/YcIci3EHwx.mp3" length="34519416" type="audio/mpeg"></enclosure><guid isPermaLink="false">VCWT_TfJ3</guid><pubDate>Thu, 16 Jul 2026 16:54:00 GMT</pubDate><itunes:duration>2157</itunes:duration><link>https://thebluecollarsmart.com/episode/rooted-in-resolve-with-marlon-mueller</link><itunes:explicit>false</itunes:explicit><description><![CDATA[<p>In this inaugural episode of <strong>Blue Collar Smart</strong>, Hugh Hornsby welcomes financial strategist and fourth-generation farmer Marlon Mueller to discuss the mindset behind lasting wealth, resilience, and leadership. Drawing from his experiences navigating the farm crisis, preserving his family's legacy, and mastering financial systems, Marlon shares practical lessons on money, mentorship, long-term thinking, and building wealth that lasts for generations. The conversation also explores why investing in people, continuous learning, and strong values creates success both in business and in life.</p><p><br></p><p>00:00 <span style="color: rgb(59, 62, 65);">— </span>Why mentorship changes your future</p><p>01:10 <span style="color: rgb(59, 62, 65);">— </span>The vision behind Blue Collar Smart</p><p>03:00 <span style="color: rgb(59, 62, 65);">—</span> Saving the family farm and learning money</p><p>10:50 <span style="color: rgb(59, 62, 65);">— </span>Why wealth begins with mindset</p><p>17:45 <span style="color: rgb(59, 62, 65);">— </span>Advice for the next generation entering the trades</p><p>30:15 <span style="color: rgb(59, 62, 65);">— </span>The Four Fs for building a meaningful life</p><p><br></p><p><br></p><p>Thanks for listening, and please share this episode with a trade leader who is ready to build something bigger than a business. Every share helps us reach more owners, executives, and industry leaders who are committed to investing in their people and strengthening the future of the trades.</p><p><br></p><p>Have a great day.</p><p><br></p><p><strong>Hugh Hornsby</strong></p><p><br></p><p><em>"People build businesses. Invest in your people, and they'll invest in your future."</em></p><h2><br></h2><h2>CONNECT with Hugh Hornsby &amp; Blue Collar Smart</h2><p><br></p><p>Get practical leadership insights, proven people-first strategies, and resources designed to help trade leaders build stronger teams, grow profitable businesses, and create organizations that stand the test of time. Join a community of owners, executives, and industry leaders who believe the future of the trades is built on people, relationships, and leadership.</p><p><br></p><p><strong>Join the Community:</strong></p><p><a href="http://www.thebluecollarsmart.com/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank" style="color: rgb(17, 85, 204); background-color: rgb(255, 255, 255);">www.thebluecollarsmart.com</a> and <a href="http://www.hughhornsby.com/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank" style="color: rgb(17, 85, 204); background-color: rgb(255, 255, 255);">www.hughhornsby.com</a></p><p><br></p><p><strong>Follow Hugh Hornsby:</strong></p><p>LinkedIn: <a href="https://www.linkedin.com/in/hugh-hornsby-51986b10/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">https://www.linkedin.com/in/hugh-hornsby-51986b10/</a></p><p><br></p><p>Interested in executive advisory, leadership coaching, speaking, or mastermind opportunities? Connect with Hugh and discover how a people-first approach can help your organization grow with purpose, clarity, and lasting impact.</p><p><br></p><h1>About the Guest</h1><p><br></p><p>Marlon Mueller is a financial educator, investor, and fourth-generation farmer who helps individuals and business owners build lasting wealth through financial education, mindset, and long-term planning. His work focuses on helping people create financial freedom while leaving a meaningful legacy for future generations.</p><p><br></p><p>Thank you to our sponsors </p><p><strong>iWallet</strong> <a href="https://www.iwallet.com/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">https://www.iwallet.com/</a></p><p><strong>Distro</strong> <a href="http://distro.app/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank" style="color: rgb(17, 85, 204);">distro.app</a></p><br><p>Visit iWallet at <a href="https://www.iwallet.com/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank" style="background-color: rgb(255, 255, 255);">https://www.iwallet.com/</a></p><p>Visit iWallet at <a href="https://www.iwallet.com/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank" style="background-color: rgb(255, 255, 255);">https://www.iwallet.com/</a></p>]]></description><itunes:image href="https://feeds.podetize.com/HROmFJGY9.png"></itunes:image><itunes:season>1</itunes:season><itunes:episode>1</itunes:episode></item></channel></rss>