Thinking BoldlyDivorce doesn't end families -- it restructures them. Welcome to Thinking Boldly, where we challenge everything you thought you knew about divorce, family law, and the future of the family after divorce.

Hosted by the Consilium® Institute founders attorney Heidi Webb and (ret.) Judge Julie Field, this podcast brings together family law attorneys, judges, therapists, financial advisors, and clients who have experienced the transformative power of the Consilium Process firsthand. Consilium is an antidote to the adversarial, emotionally devastating, and financially draining traditional divorce system. The Thinking Boldly podcast explores this better way forward.

The Consilium Process represents a revolutionary approach to family restructuring that integrates legal, financial, and psychological support into one collaborative framework. Instead of viewing divorce as destruction, we see it as an opportunity for growth, healing, and the creation of healthier family systems that endure beyond the courtroom.

Each episode explores the innovative methods that are helping families across the nation move from dissolution to evolution. We dig deep into:

• The Consilium Process: How a multidisciplinary paradigm creates better outcomes than traditional litigation 

• Family Restructuring: Practical strategies for co-parenting, communication, and maintaining family bonds through transition 

• The Emotional Journey: Understanding and navigating the psychological challenges of divorce with compassion and clarity 

• Financial Planning: Creating sustainable financial futures that align with legal and emotional realities 

• Legal Innovation: How attorneys are thriving by adopting integrative, client-centered approaches 

• Personal Growth: Using divorce as a catalyst for transformation rather than trauma


Whether you're a family law attorney seeking better tools to serve your clients, a mental health therapist or financial professional guiding families experiencing divorce, a judge looking for more effective approaches, or an individual navigating family transition, Thinking Boldly delivers the insights and inspiration you need.

Our founders bring unparalleled expertise: Heidi Webb created the Consilium Process through her dual background in family law and psychology, while Judge Julie Field has spent her career on the bench serving families navigating the court system. Together, they've built a national network of Consilium Practitioners who are transforming how families restructure for better futures.

We believe that with the right support, legal guidance, financial planning, and emotional tools, families can emerge from divorce stronger, healthier, and more optimistic about the future. Logic can prevail even during times of high emotion. Children can thrive. Co-parents can align on child-rearing. And everyone involved can move forward with dignity.

Join us for candid conversations that challenge conventional wisdom, share real client success stories, and provide actionable strategies you can implement immediately.  Families deserve better than what the current broken divorce system offers -- and families thriving after divorce prove our methods work.

Subscribe to Thinking Boldly and discover how family restructuring can be a path to personal evolution.

Learn more at consiliuminstitute.com


]]>en-usfalseHeidi Webb and Julie Fieldhttps://consiliuminstitute.com/Julie Fieldjfield@consiliuminstitute.comepisodicIt Really Is A Wonderful Life! A Candid Conversation With Attorney Stephen VertucciY7VO-S2QnThu, 07 May 2026 10:00:00 GMT2708https://consiliuminstitute.com/it-really-is-a-wonderful-life-a-candid-conversation-with-attorney-stephen-vertuccifalseCan a challenging career in family law still pave the way for a truly wonderful life? Retired Judge Julie Field and Heidi Webb, co-founders of the Consilium Institute, welcome family law attorney Stephen Vertucci to discuss a transformative approach to legal practice.


Stephen, an early adopter of the Consilium process, shares how he shifted his perspective from being mired in negativity to finding re-energizing purpose—seeing his work as “a part of the creation of two families, not the breakup of one.” Dive into this candid conversation to hear Stephen’s key advice for professionals on protecting their mental health, the importance of breaking bread to settle cases, and the powerful message behind his favorite movie of all time, It’s a Wonderful Life. Learn how to find a better, less conflicted path for your clients and for yourself.

]]>112Creating Child-Centered Solutions From The Bench With Judge Kelley SoutherlandyJMR1CHkSMon, 27 Apr 2026 10:00:00 GMT2700https://consiliuminstitute.com/creating-child-centered-solutions-from-the-bench-with-judge-kelley-southerlandfalseIn the most challenging moments of life, particularly those involving family law, the court system can feel foreign and frightening. But what if the judge presiding over your case saw their role as an opportunity to build peace and help your family “restructure”?


Join us for a thoughtful and inspiring conversation with Judge Kelley Southerland, a leader in family law who is helping shape a more compassionate court experience for families across Colorado. Since taking the bench in 2017, Judge Southerland has been a steady champion for families—and especially for children—ensuring that every voice is heard during some of life’s most challenging moments.


Today, Judge Southerland shares the unconventional path that led her to the bench, emphasizing that her goal is to make sure litigants feel seen and heard in a welcome space. She discusses the critical importance of listening to children’s voices, the power of collaboration between the Bench and the Bar, and her commitment to judicial wellness, which includes waking up before 5 am to exercise and read. Learn how she uses her human perspective and heart to ensure the court process leads to true resolution and success for families.

]]>111Prenups And The "Suits" Impact On Clients' Expectations With Jared Wood, EsquireekK9RNLmrThu, 09 Apr 2026 10:00:00 GMT2891https://consiliuminstitute.com/prenups-and-the-suits-impact-on-clients-expectations-with-jared-wood-esquirefalsePrenups lawyer expectations collide with pop culture perceptions in this grounded look at how media influences real family law decisions. In this episode, Consilium Practitioner Jared Wood, Esquire of Egloff & Wood, LLP, shares his expertise on prenuptial agreements and how shows like Suits shape what clients expect before they ever step into a law office. Jared breaks down how those expectations compare to real-world legal processes, especially in Massachusetts probate and family court, and why misunderstandings about prenups often lead to frustration during negotiations. Together, we explore how attorneys manage client perception, the role of education in early legal planning, and why clear communication is essential when emotions, assets, and relationships are on the line.

]]>110Attorneys Who Dare Greatly: Serving People Not “Clients” In Divorce With Lindsay Reilly And David VandenbergRaxX6uZurSat, 07 Mar 2026 11:00:00 GMT2832https://consiliuminstitute.com/attorneys-who-dare-greatly-serving-people-not-clients-in-divorce-with-lindsay-reilly-and-david-vandenbergfalseFamily law involves personal matters that are often riddled with emotions, trauma, and extremely high stakes. Therefore, those who assist families in such legal matters must know how to take a human-centered approach instead of simply treating them as mere clients. Julie Field sits down with family law attorneys Lindsay Reilly and David Vandenberg of Reilly, Vandenberg & Biggers, who share how they transitioned from their leadership roles in the district attorney’s office to leading families through the restructuring process by applying the Consilium Process every day, in every case. Together, they talk about their mission to reach resolutions outside the courtroom that contemplate long-term solutions and a holistic approach to restructuring families. Find out how they empower their clients to be their own deciders and set themselves up for the next chapter of their lives.

]]>19Conversations About Divorce And Family Restructuring With The Hon. Angie Arkin, CO District Court Judge (Retired)fA_EALed9Wed, 25 Feb 2026 11:00:00 GMT4009https://consiliuminstitute.com/conversations-about-divorce-and-family-restructuring-with-the-hon-angie-arkin-co-district-court-judge-retiredfalseMarital agreements, divorces, and child custody cases are messy, emotional, and often leave families feeling ill-served by courts. What can judges and lawyers do to make family law a bit less overwhelming for them? Honorable Angie Arkin, CO District Court Judge (retired), shares her vast experience and expertise in this area as one of the nation’s leading experts in judicial education and family dynamics. She talks about the Colorado Supreme Court’s revolutionary initiative: the introduction of Licensed Legal Paraprofessionals (LLP) who provide families with essential legal advice at court. Judge Angie also explains why judges should let go of their judgmental mindset when dealing with family law cases to end up with the best possible outcomes for every family.

]]>18Becoming Fierce: Sparking Your Personal Transformation With Stephanie James6vMVAil9IWed, 04 Feb 2026 11:00:00 GMT2503https://consiliuminstitute.com/becoming-fierce-sparking-your-personal-transformation-with-stephanie-jamesfalseIn a world saturated with quick fixes and surface-level advice, true personal transformation often feels like an elusive goal. But what if the key to profound change—the spark—is already within you? We sat down with Stephanie James, a true pioneer at the intersection of psychology, spirituality, and modern transformation. As a renowned Transformation Coach, Psychotherapist, acclaimed Author of Becoming Fierce and Your Big Fat Juicy Life, and host of the Igniting the Spark podcast, Stephanie brings decades of wisdom to helping individuals move beyond mere coping and into radical self-expansion. In this candid interview, Stephanie demystifies the role of a Transformation Coach, shares her deeply personal journey from feeling rejected to becoming fierce, and explains why self-kindness is the most powerful tool for navigating life’s most painful transitions, including divorce. Get ready to discover the “infuser” philosophy, the power of befriending yourself, and the ancient-meets-modern modalities Stephanie uses to help you excavate your inner light. If you’re ready to shift from “good enough” to truly thriving, this conversation is your ignition point.

]]>17Unhitching - The Five Stages Of Divorce Grief With Oona Metz, LICSWOSPvIS2ezWed, 28 Jan 2026 11:00:00 GMT2120https://consiliuminstitute.com/unhitching-the-five-stages-of-divorce-grief-with-oona-metz-licswfalseJoin us as we talk with Consilium Practitioner and author Oona Metz, who specializes in treating women navigating divorce. Oona brings together her 30 years of experience running divorce support groups and captures the challenge of the divorce journey by setting out the five stages of divorce grief. She also talks about her new book, Unhitched: The Essential Divorce Guide for Women, where she breaks down how to ride – and eventually get off – the roller coaster of divorce. Discover what it takes to get through this emotionally and financially challenging phase of your life and ultimately rediscover your authentic self.

]]>16Figuring It All Out: Discerning Divorce With Jennifer Meyer, LPC, NCC, CFRC6dPgC4JCsWed, 21 Jan 2026 11:04:00 GMT2582https://consiliuminstitute.com/figuring-it-all-out-discerning-divorce-with-jennifer-meyer-lpc-ncc-cfrcfalseDivorce is often described as a chaotic, emotionally draining process. But what if there was a way to approach this challenging life transition with more clarity, respect, and even collaboration? Today, we sit down with Jennifer Meyer, LPC, NCC, CFRC, a certified Consilium practitioner, who specializes in guiding individuals and couples through the complex emotional landscape of separation and post-divorce recovery. Jennifer introduces us to the unique world of discernment counseling—a crucial first step for couples on different pages about staying together—and shares how a truly collaborative approach, involving attorneys and financial experts, can lead to a more peaceful, self-governing, and healing outcome for the entire family. From navigating the profound grief of loss to the power of co-ed group recovery (and yes, even the thrill of skydiving as a metaphor for post-divorce empowerment), Jennifer provides an inspiring, deeply compassionate perspective on turning one of life’s toughest experiences into a journey of growth and resilience. Ready to understand how discernment and collaboration can redefine your path through divorce? Read on.

]]>15Listening For Change: A Candid Conversation With MA Chief Justice John D. Casey99ly5TeAnWed, 21 Jan 2026 11:03:00 GMT3118https://consiliuminstitute.com/listening-for-change-a-candid-conversation-with-ma-chief-justice-john-d-caseyfalseDiscover how Chief Justice John Casey transformed the Massachusetts Probate and Family Court from a system “in crisis” into a national model for innovation. In this compelling conversation, he shares the strategic vision behind groundbreaking initiatives like the Pathways Case Management System and award-winning virtual case conferencing, while candidly addressing challenges such as limited resources, judicial burnout, and the complexity of family litigation. More than a story of court reform, this is a masterclass in adaptive leadership, showing how prioritizing family well-being, access to justice, and alternative dispute resolution can drive lasting change—along with a look at what’s next in his work expanding online dispute resolution for low-income families.

]]>14“Wait, Wait, DO Tell Me!” A Candid Conversation With Justice Melissa HartQdFugMBe2Wed, 21 Jan 2026 11:02:00 GMT2702https://consiliuminstitute.com/wait-wait-do-tell-me-a-candid-conversation-with-justice-melissa-hartfalseColorado is quickly becoming a bellwether for innovation in family law, moving away from adversarial traditions toward a system focused on family restructuring and hopeful outcomes. We sat down with Colorado Supreme Court Justice Melissa Hart—a leading voice in the access to justice movement and the champion behind the state’s proposed Rules of Family Procedure—to discuss this monumental shift.


Justice Hart explains why replacing the rigid Rules of Civil Procedure with a tailored, less-adversarial framework is essential for the 75-80% of unrepresented parties navigating divorce and custody. She shares how this cultural change, which moves away from “plaintiff” and “defendant” language, is empowering judges and fostering collaboration between the bench and the bar.


Listen in to learn about the presumptive “informal family pre-trial procedure” (and its non-I-dirt name), the inspiration drawn from states like Alaska, and the critical next steps in the adoption process. Find out how you can lend your voice to this transformative process before the public hearing on May 13th.


Proposed Colorado Rules of Family Procedure-

https://www.coloradojudicial.gov/supreme-court/adopted-proposed-rule-changes

]]>13Daf Reactions: Lighting Up The World With Insights From The Talmud With Miriam AnzovinjbYyW2VVvWed, 21 Jan 2026 11:01:00 GMT2859https://consiliuminstitute.com/daf-reactions-lighting-up-the-world-with-insights-from-the-talmud-with-miriam-anzovinfalseWhat do ancient Babylonian rabbinic debates, Millennial feminist commentary, and Lord of the Rings analogies have in common? They all collide in the incredible work of Miriam Anzovin, a content creator and self-described huge Jewish nerd. In our latest interview, Miriam shares her journey from a formerly Orthodox, deeply shy young woman to a viral sensation who is making the dense, 2,711-page Babylonian Talmud accessible, joyful, and deeply personal.


In this piece, we explore how Miriam’s Daf Reactions project—her daily, heartfelt, and comedic video responses to her study of the Talmud—is breaking down historical barriers, giving voice to forgotten women in ancient texts, and helping thousands reclaim their Jewish identity. We also touch on her personal, cathartic experience navigating both secular and religious divorce, and how ancient conversations about divorce echo modern struggles with power and coercive control.


Dive into this fascinating world where ancient text meets modern internet culture, and discover how Miriam Anzovin is truly lighting up the world with insights from the Talmud.

]]>12Coercive Control And The Interplay Of Religious And Secular Divorce With Dr. Lisa Fishbayn JoffeJ0lHCVRmQWed, 21 Jan 2026 11:00:00 GMT3191https://consiliuminstitute.com/coercive-control-and-the-interplay-of-religious-and-secular-divorce-with-dr-lisa-fishbayn-joffefalseWhen a Jewish couple marries in the U.S., they are often creating not one, but two legal unions: a secular marriage recognized by the state and a religious marriage governed by Jewish law. While many are aware of the beautiful rituals of a traditional Jewish wedding, few grasp the profound implications—especially concerning divorce—where gender inequality can emerge, creating opportunities for coercive control. In this thought-provoking deep dive, retired Judge Julie Field and Consilium Institute co-founder Heidi Webb sit down with Dr. Lisa Fishbayn Joffe, a leading expert on women’s rights under Jewish Family Law and the Shalom Reinhart Director of the Hadassah-Brandeis Institute (HBI).


Join us as Dr. Lisa Fishbayn Joffe illuminates the complex history and modern reality of the get (religious divorce document), explaining why a husband’s capacity to withhold it can become a powerful tool for extortion and domestic abuse, leaving women “chained” to a dead marriage (agunah). From the unique legal landscape in Israel, where religious courts are state-supported, to the emerging use of U.S. and U.K. domestic violence laws to address get refusal, this essential conversation offers secular law professionals and community members critical insights into this complex area of law and human rights.

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